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1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

The media, in the UK, tend to portray Americans as being pretty dumb......but I can't believe they are so dumb as to give Trump another term.....?

We shall find out shortly'

 

Mind you. it does seem, based on last time, that the choice of President is not necessarily made bu the voters (3 million more votes for Mrs Clinton nationally or something?), and if Mr Trump has his way this time, the choice may be made by the Supreme Court!

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A stiff breeze  would boost his hope as much. 😉   Biden is done stick a fork in him it will come out clean.  The Dems for better or worse have once again shot themselves in their own foot by

Texans can look proudly at the big beautiful wall between their state and Mexico. I still remember the day with pride when the Mexican president signed the cheque to pay for it. Trumps healthcare

Good we are a better country and deserve a better president than trump 

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The media, in the UK, tend to portray Americans as being pretty dumb......but I can't believe they are so dumb as to give an old aged pensioner with cognitive issues the presidency. 

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7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The media, in the UK, tend to portray Americans as being pretty dumb......but I can't believe they are so dumb as to give an old aged pensioner with cognitive issues the presidency. 

Didn't stop them electing Reagan or Bush.

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43 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The media, in the UK, tend to portray Americans as being pretty dumb......but I can't believe they are so dumb as to give an old aged pensioner with cognitive issues the presidency. 

 

Yeah. Trump’s election in 2016 was a stunner. Shows voters aren't that smart.

 

32 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Have you seen any recent videos of Biden, he can hardly talk, at least Reagan could, and very well, very sharp.

Can you imagine Biden at the end of his term? Personally, I think he could be dead. 

 

Sad times when people bash others with disabilities. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

Politicians should have mandatory retirement at 70.

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52 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The media, in the UK, tend to portray Americans as being pretty dumb......but I can't believe they are so dumb as to give an old aged pensioner with cognitive issues the presidency. 

Not to worry. Biden is favored to win.

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1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

 

Yeah. Trump’s election in 2016 was a stunner. Shows voters aren't that smart.

 

 

Sad times when people bash others with disabilities. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

Politicians should have mandatory retirement at 70.

Ronald Reagan was a Spring chicken when elected at 69 compared to Joe Biden, 78.

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2 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

We shall find out shortly'

 

Mind you. it does seem, based on last time, that the choice of President is not necessarily made bu the voters (3 million more votes for Mrs Clinton nationally or something?), and if Mr Trump has his way this time, the choice may be made by the Supreme Court!

Yep, Hillary won the popular vote. A totally irrelevant statistic.  It is like playing chess, having your "important piece named after a male monarch" check-mated, then complaining that you should win because you still have more pieces on the board.   I can't think of any country offhand that elects their leader by simple headcount.  Canada doesnt, Japan doesnt, the UK doesnt, Australia doesnt, New Zealand doesnt...

 

Just as an aside, in my chess analogy the system did not allow me to use the four letter word beginning with "K" that rhymes with "sing" to describe a chesspiece.  Strange....

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13 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yep, Hillary won the popular vote. A totally irrelevant statistic.  It is like playing chess, having your "important piece named after a male monarch" check-mated, then complaining that you should win because you still have more pieces on the board.   I can't think of any country offhand that elects their leader by simple headcount.  Canada doesnt, Japan doesnt, the UK doesnt, Australia doesnt, New Zealand doesnt...

 

Just as an aside, in my chess analogy the system did not allow me to use the four letter word beginning with "K" that rhymes with "sing" to describe a chesspiece.  Strange....

Couldn't believe you, but true, that word is not allowed. Apparently sensitive here.

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31 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yep, Hillary won the popular vote. A totally irrelevant statistic.  It is like playing chess, having your "important piece named after a male monarch" check-mated, then complaining that you should win because you still have more pieces on the board.   I can't think of any country offhand that elects their leader by simple headcount.  Canada doesnt, Japan doesnt, the UK doesnt, Australia doesnt, New Zealand doesnt...

Canada, Japan, the UK, Australia, New Zealand Are all Constitutional Monarchies, with a hereditary monarch as head of state with  a largely ceremonial role. They are actually governed by an executive drawn from their parliaments, which are themselves formed from elected constituency representatives. The same is true of a number of other (principally European) countries.

 

However amongst the long list of countries which lay claim to a Presidential system of government, and whose executive branch of government is headed by a (directly) elected president, we may include France, Russia, Brazil, Portugal, Argentina, Chile, Cyprus, Indonesia and the Philippines. One may dislike the choices which the various electorates have made ( personally I dislike the Presidents of Russia and the Philippines in particular) but all these countries elect their Presidents by a "simple headcount". The United States, which lays claim to the role of world leader amongst the democratic nations, is however it seems, prepared to countenance the selection of their President (and government/executive leader) either by a committee (college) which is able to disregard the popular vote in awarding the Presidency (by a margin of millions of votes nationwide?) or by a Supreme Court which the incumbent President has made no secret of reforming with judges who share his political convictions, and which he has said he expects and intends to actually decide the outcome.

 

Whether that method is acceptable or not is a matter for the American people, but if they are happy with their President being appointed by either the Electoral College or the Supreme Court, despite an electoral majority (popular vote) going to the losing candidate, then they simply cannot claim that their President is elected by a direct democratic process, because he or she isn't. Nor are they really in a position to lecture other states as to the democratic provenance of their government systems.

 

If you claim to be a country governed on democratic principles, with an elected executive President, then the popular vote cannot be described as a "totally irrelevant statistic". Your Chess analogy makes no sense whatsoever.

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Thanks for the civics lesson herfie. I think you actually proved my larger point. Countries that go for direct elections are in fact less free than those that do not. I would not want to be governed like Russia, the Phils, or Argentina.  Seems like a system more given to abuse considering where it is used. Give me a system that requires true national consensus any day. 

 

Also, politicians in more parliamentary countries are well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of such a system. They know the rules going in. So Hillary and her supporters complaining about losing the election in spite of getting more votes is disingenuous and irrelevant.  It only shows that they don't have true national support.

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Just now, Hanaguma said:

So Hillary and her supporters complaining about losing the election in spite of getting more votes is disingenuous and irrelevant.  It only shows that they don't have true national support.

 They don't have true national support , yet had more (considerably more) votes? 

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Texas is a lock---- for Trump! Only a foolish dreamer would argue otherwise.

PA/OH/FL/WI and so on... indubitably.

 

Ole Joe can step down and continue his sleepie, catatonic state Nov 4th.

 

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7 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Social security is a form of social welfare.  So yes, it's a form of socialism.  Some pay a lot into it, like you and I, some don't, but still get benefits. 

 

An interesting read on pensions.

 

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/122916/are-social-security-benefits-form-socialism.asp

https://www.damgoodpensions.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-pensions/

And invented by a damned socialist! 😂

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6 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

 They don't have true national support , yet had more (considerably more) votes? 

Yes, they pile up votes in regional power centers (in the Democrat's case, New York and California mainly), and lose many of the rest of the states by smaller margins. In California alone, Hillary got 4 million more votes than Trump. So take them out and the race is basically a tie. 

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