fvw53 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) I want to back up my many Blu-Ray DVD's on an external HD ( I did already the same with my standard DVD's using a HD DVD player) I have two Blu-Ray players : one is a 6 year old Samsung BD-F5100 and now I have a new AJ D-828 BD When I connect them (to the power and to the HDMI port) they do not show up in the Device Manager I have good excellent software to play with the Blu-Ray video but first I need to find out how to get the Blu-Ray player detected Did any TV Forum members succeed and is kind enough to tell me how? Edited October 29, 2020 by fvw53 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldie Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 The HDMI port is for video output and not an input port. At least if you take the one from the graphic card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 What are the 'signal out' connections available on your Blue Ray and what are the 'signal in' available on your PC? (I doubt if it is possible to connect these Blue-rays to your PC) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) You would most likely need a PC Blu Ray drive like this https://www.jib.co.th/web/index.php/product/readProduct/16995/8/DVD-RW-ASUS-BLURAY-16D1HT-PRO--BLACK- then use some ripping software like this https://www.makemkv.com/ The Samsung BD-F5100 might be able to hook up to a PC via the LAN port and you might be able to use VLC installed on the PC to "record" the disc in real-time ie: slow and probably not the full quality but worth trying first. Edited October 29, 2020 by johng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 Why repeat what someone has already done? Just download Blu-ray rips of whatever quality you want. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvw53 Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, johng said: You would most likely need a PC Blu Ray drive like this https://www.jib.co.th/web/index.php/product/readProduct/16995/8/DVD-RW-ASUS-BLURAY-16D1HT-PRO--BLACK- then use some ripping software like this https://www.makemkv.com/ The Samsung BD-F5100 might be able to hook up to a PC via the LAN port and you might be able to use VLC installed on the PC to "record" the disc in real-time ie: slow and probably not the full quality but worth trying first. Thank you but I do not think that if my (new) HP desktop PC with Win 10 cannot detect a Samsung or an AJ it will detect the ASUS player your recommend www.makemkv.com looks good but only after the Blu-Ray player is detected and is operational Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvw53 Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Oldie said: The HDMI port is for video output and not an input port. At least if you take the one from the graphic card. Thank you but the HDMI port on my desktop PC is next to 3 USB ports and the latter are used as input for playback from external HD / I would be surprised if the HDMI port is only for output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldie Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, fvw53 said: Thank you but the HDMI port on my desktop PC is next to 3 USB ports and the latter are used as input for playback from external HD / I would be surprised if the HDMI port is only for output What motherboard do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ravip said: What are the 'signal out' connections available on your Blue Ray and what are the 'signal in' available on your PC? (I doubt if it is possible to connect these Blue-rays to your PC) Yes they made it rather difficult to connect to a PC due to not wanting people to "backup" or in other words copy the Blu Ray discs...there are HDMI recording devices that could work but again it would record in real time and quality maybe compromised. 10 minutes ago, fvw53 said: Thank you but I do not think that if my (new) HP desktop PC with Win 10 cannot detect a Samsung or an AJ it will detect the ASUS player your recommend The drive I pointed to is specifically designed to work in a PC I very much doubt your PC would not detect it as it connects to a PC SATA port inside the PC. The Blu Ray players you have are stand alone but The Samsung BD-F5100 might be able to hook up to a PC via the LAN port have you tried that yet ? Edited October 29, 2020 by johng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johng Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, fvw53 said: I would be surprised if the HDMI port is only for output I would be surprised if it was HDMI in. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, fvw53 said: Thank you but I do not think that if my (new) HP desktop PC with Win 10 cannot detect a Samsung or an AJ it will detect the ASUS player your recommend www.makemkv.com looks good but only after the Blu-Ray player is detected and is operational The ASUS player recommend via the link is one made specially to be connected/mounted internally in a PC. Maybe, it might need a driver to be installed, and if so, when you buy it the driver CD or whatever will be included. The two players you already have are normal domestic type, meant to be connected to a TV or monitor. Just because the HDMI port is located next to an USB port in your PC, does not mean it is an input. Example >>> My HP 4530s has the HDMI port next to the USB ports, but is an output. . Edited October 29, 2020 by ravip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvw53 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 3:23 PM, johng said: Yes they made it rather difficult to connect to a PC due to not wanting people to "backup" or in other words copy the Blu Ray discs...there are HDMI recording devices that could work but again it would record in real time and quality maybe compromised. The drive I pointed to is specifically designed to work in a PC I very much doubt your PC would not detect it as it connects to a PC SATA port inside the PC. The Blu Ray players you have are stand alone but The Samsung BD-F5100 might be able to hook up to a PC via the LAN port have you tried that yet ? I tried via the LAN port but again no sign on life / playback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 2:56 PM, BritManToo said: Why repeat what someone has already done? Just download Blu-ray rips of whatever quality you want. I'm with BritManToo on this one. If you already have the manufactured Blu-ray DVDs then just find the corresponding torrent version online, as then extraction work is already done for you, download and save THAT video file to your hard drive collection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldie Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 hours ago, fvw53 said: I tried via the LAN port but again no sign on life / playback The idea of the LAN port is the connection to a router (Internet) and to media servers. Your Blu-Ray player is no Blu-Ray drive. With the drive you can copy data. Read about Blu-Ray ripping on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 6:31 AM, fvw53 said: I want to back up my many Blu-Ray DVD's on an external HD ( I did already the same with my standard DVD's using a HD DVD player) I have two Blu-Ray players : one is a 6 year old Samsung BD-F5100 and now I have a new AJ D-828 BD When I connect them (to the power and to the HDMI port) they do not show up in the Device Manager I have good excellent software to play with the Blu-Ray video but first I need to find out how to get the Blu-Ray player detected Did any TV Forum members succeed and is kind enough to tell me how? As aforementioned, you need a BluRay player for your PC. Not only that, but if you have any 4k BluRay discs you'll need a specific BluRay player; as most don't have the ability to bypass the copy protection. LG WH16NS40 ASUS BC-12D2HT LG BH16NS40 ASUS BW-16D1HT are suitable candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 https://www.myce.com/news/aacs-2-0-copy-protection-ultra-hd-blu-ray-discs-actively-exploited-loophole-83221/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvw53 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 18 hours ago, Eindhoven said: https://www.myce.com/news/aacs-2-0-copy-protection-ultra-hd-blu-ray-discs-actively-exploited-loophole-83221/ Thank you for this clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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