MP Pareena refuses to budge from her pro-govt stance in televised debate with pro-democracy activist

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MP Pareena refuses to budge from her pro-govt stance in televised debate with pro-democracy activist

By THE NATION

 

Pareena Kraikupt

 

Pro-democracy activist Pasarawalee Thanakitwibulpol said the government should listen closely to the voice of the people, while Palang Pracharat MP Pareena Kraikupt responded by saying the government has listened, but can’t meet any demands apart from the one on charter amendment.

 

The two were arguing with each other on Wednesday in a TV show called “Thaam Trong Trong” (“I Ask You Directly”) broadcast by ThairathTV.

 

The 25-year-old protester said everybody have the democratic right to express their political views, just like the yellow-shirt royalists, and the government should listen to the pro-democracy protesters’ demands.

 

She also said she agrees with the idea of holding a public referendum, which was suggested by moderator Jomquan Laopetch during the show. Pasarawalee said government representatives should talk to people publicly, especially since the pro-democracy group does not represent the entire population. She said the only way out is for both sides to talk to each other.

 

However, the Ratchaburi MP continued insisting that the demands put forward by the pro-democracy groups were impossible to meet. She also said Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha will not step down just because a small group of people want him to. She said the premier’s presence is necessary, especially during this time of economic crisis and the Covid-19 outbreak.

 

Pareena also insisted that Prayut had been elected democratically and that Pasarawalee should respect that if she supports democracy.

The MP also said the pro-democracy groups should leave the traditions of Thailand untouched, alluding to the 10-point manifesto the activists have produced for reforming the monarchy.

 

She also slammed the protesters for using coarse language in their speeches and accused them of planning a revolution as well as violating other people’s rights.

 

An interesting topic raised during the conversation was equality. Pasarawalee accused Prayut of being inefficient as a prime minister, saying he has not been able to close the gap between the rich and poor since he began running the country six years ago.

 

Pareena responded by saying inequality existed even before the protesters were born, even when Thaksin and Yingluck Shinawatra were prime ministers.

 

“Why didn’t you stand up for inequality then?” she asked.

 

The debate, which was broadcast both on cable TV and online, won a widespread response from the public. Many praised Pasarawalee for her smart responses, while Pareena was panned for constantly interrupting the protester and the moderator. At the same time, government supporters claimed the MP put forward a strong argument and was the real winner.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30396975

 

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[Thaiwrath]

3 minutes ago, webfact said:

Pareena also insisted that Prayut had been elected democratically

By the hand picked senate, full of ex military and family !

Not <deleted> democratically.

[johng]

6 minutes ago, webfact said:

The two were arguing with each other on Wednesday in a TV show called “Thaam Trong Trong” (“I Ask You Directly”) broadcast by ThairathTV.

I caught the end of this on Thairath TV last night  Pro-democracy activist Pasarawalee Thanakitwibulpol

was the winner in my view (did not see the whole "debate" )

  The MP looked likely to explode at the end  when moderator gave the last 1 minute

of the show to the activist  and she  announced the details of the next demonstration  ????  ????

[ThailandRyan]

17 minutes ago, webfact said:

Pareena also insisted that Prayut had been elected democratically and that Pasarawalee should respect that if she supports democracy.

She is on drugs if she truly believes he was elected democratically.  He was elected with the assistance of a stacked PPRP and the senate.  I would not have happened otherwise. Pareena is an evil and spiteful woman, who should be out of office based upon her criminality.   She and her party are held to a different standard, and not the same as the other side...just a purely evil biatch.

[Salerno]

18 minutes ago, webfact said:

“Why didn’t you stand up for inequality then?” she asked

 

????

18 minutes ago, webfact said:

... inequality existed even before the protesters were born

 

 

[canopus1969]

public referendum - haha the Gov would not dare to have one as they know they would lose

[JusticeGB]

You can change everything except things that Uncle Tu wants to remain the same same (sic).

[sammieuk1]

Blinded by loot with a veil of tissue thin arguments is the way I read it ????????

[ChipButty]

Should have given them a pair of gloves and put them in the ring

[rkidlad]

53 minutes ago, webfact said:

She also slammed the protesters for using coarse language in their speeches and accused them of planning a revolution as well as violating other people’s rights.

Other people's rights? She is a member of the party who committed treason.

 

This woman is truly abhorrent. 

[Grossman]

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2020/10/29/heres-a-recap-of-parina-vs-mind-showdown-everyones-talking-about/

 

Pretty good recap..

 

When Patsaravalee talked about how the previous election had 250 senators who tipped the scales and gave Gen. Prayuth power, Parina said “Those 250 senators are not from Gen. Prayuth. This is fake news. They were chosen.”

“Who picked them in the end?” Jomquan said. 

“I wasn’t there, so I don’t know,” Parina said. 

“According to the process, it was by Gen. Prayut,” Jomquan answered for her.

 

[rkidlad]

19 minutes ago, Grossman said:

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2020/10/29/heres-a-recap-of-parina-vs-mind-showdown-everyones-talking-about/

 

Pretty good recap..

 

When Patsaravalee talked about how the previous election had 250 senators who tipped the scales and gave Gen. Prayuth power, Parina said “Those 250 senators are not from Gen. Prayuth. This is fake news. They were chosen.”

“Who picked them in the end?” Jomquan said. 

“I wasn’t there, so I don’t know,” Parina said. 

“According to the process, it was by Gen. Prayut,” Jomquan answered for her.

 

“I wasn’t there, so I don’t”

 

What an eloquent and mature reply. With this lot at the negotiation table, one wonders why we’re at this current impasse. 

 

 

[Misterwhisper]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Pareena also insisted that Prayut had been elected democratically

 

Yeah, just as "democratically" as the leaders of illustrious countries such as Turkmenistan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, North Korea et al. A senate stuffed with cronies, sycophants and "old comrades" made sure of that. 

[DrTuner]

See that facial expression? It has contempt written all over it. These people need to go.

[Paiman]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

especially since the pro-democracy group does not represent the entire population

 

One party rarly represents the entire population. That is why in democratic countries there are elections.

Then depending on the vote counting of the parties there will be number of seats........and so on.

 

But that szenario is impossible here, because Pinochio and his Puppet show annulled the constitution in 2014 politely to their advantage.

[greg71]

[ChrisY1]

Well......she is a chicken farmer.....!

[ThailandRyan]

36 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

Well......she is a chicken farmer.....!

So lots of Chicken Shiite then in her personal life as well,  easy to sling the BS then for her.

[rtco]

16 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha will not step down just because a small group of people want him to

I think you'll find it's a large group of people and they are not all activists

[KhunFred]

Amazingly resistant to logic. How very Thai.

[klauskunkel]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

The 25-year-old protester said everybody have the democratic right to express their political views.

Pareena responded by saying inequality existed even before the protesters were born, even when Thaksin and Yingluck Shinawatra were prime ministers.

“Why didn’t you stand up for inequality then?” she asked.

Answer: Because at that time I was 10 years old still believing everything the adults told me, while you were in your 40's eagerly practicing your corruption skills.

[Stargeezr]

It seems that this Pareena woman is a Trump in a skirt kind of person.

Toe the government party line and lie about the PM and his so democratic

way that he got elected, and is staying as PM even though it is not only the

student protesters that want him gone but a lot of the Thailand population.

  This woman's blinders are as evident as the PMs are.

Geezer

[spidermike007]

Pareena is a dinosaur who cannot see the climate changing, and is attempting to cling to the past, burying her hard head in the sand, and pretending all is great here. Hopefully, the youth will figure out a way to get rid of these tone deaf relics, and move the nation forward. Her master Prayuth has to go. Get out now! You are despised by your people, more than ever before.

[hotchilli]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Pareena also insisted that Prayut had been elected democratically and that Pasarawalee should respect that if she supports democracy.

Selective memory in action again regarding the selection [sorry election].

Also more of the lets talk, we'll listen but we can't change attitude.

Hence the protests will continue.

[Baerboxer]

15 hours ago, Paiman said:

 

One party rarly represents the entire population. That is why in democratic countries there are elections.

Then depending on the vote counting of the parties there will be number of seats........and so on.

 

But that szenario is impossible here, because Pinochio and his Puppet show annulled the constitution in 2014 politely to their advantage.

 

Very true. But in a democratic country, you also have a totally independent judiciary (more independent in some than others!), that dispenses justice and enforces law without bias, favor and not based on politics.

 

Also, the party or parties forming the government usually try to represent all their citizens, not just the ones who voted for them. Rather than rival gangs fighting for control of the trough in order to get rich/richer quick.

 

The much vaunted Western democracies are also not performing and as information becomes more easily available seem not as whiter than white as they like to pretend. No wonder people all around the world are showing their discontent.

Edited October 30, 2020 by Baerboxer

[Burma Bill]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

she agrees with the idea of holding a public referendum,

This Government holding a referendum nationwide - oh really!!! This would be the result:-

 

 

 

[Burma Bill]

Perhaps she should have been named "Piranha" - a nasty "piece of work"!!!

[holy cow cm]

She should be in jail for land encroachment. That snake also did not why the young girl Pasarawalee where the mediator and Pasarawalee both having class gave a wai to all. How they can just sit there and out and out lie that the government is legitimate and honest is just a disgrace. 

[tomauasia]

Pareena is not even qualified and is a hand be done washed up model. Dating one of the stooges. I wouldn't employ her to manage a brothel.