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1 hour ago, Sujo said:

No they dont. Mahathir is about a hundred years old and his comments have been roundly condemned. I live in malaysia and his comments have not been well received.

 

It was earlier claimed (by @7by7, I think) that comments by Muslim religious leaders, authors and activists represented the majority of Muslims - or something close enough to that, anyway. If that's an acceptable proposition, then how come it does not apply to political leaders?

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Lets not let incidents like this distract everyone from France's commitment to diversity and inclusion, a powerful and ambitious approach to making France, and the world, a better, and safer, place. R

How many heads would have to get chopped off before you show any kind of resentment?    These are not lone wolf isolated incidents ,  as numerous people were involved in the teachers beheading 

What they are pushing for is for France to adopt a blasphemy law. You can always submit to the Muslim World, today for cartoons, tomorrow for gender equality,  may girls sit next to boys in class

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33 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Muslim terrorism only represent 1% of total French terrorism acts since 1789.

 

Majority of terrorism acts in France were perpetrated by separatist right wing groups. You don’t question their integration.

 

Attacks of this month were perpetrated by people residing (legally and/or illegally) not longer than 3 years on French soil. Your lack of integration claim is false.

 

Again making claims without bothering to back them up.

 

Was Muslim  terrorism even a thing in 1789? How about checking the figures on a more relevant time scale? Or for that matter, one which corresponds to immigration and demographic statistics?

 

And no, people will not question the integration of 'home grown' groups, not even 'terrorist' ones, because it's totally irrelevant to the issue.

 

Your own comment regarding recent attacks an integrations would be better supported by showing statistics indicating the longer immigrants remain in France, the less chances of them being involved in such incidents.

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15 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

That's very different from wholesale deporting of innocent people based on their nationality/religion alone. Further, I would assume that there are treaties in place between France and Croatia regulating such issues. Without such agreements, such mass deportations would remain right-wingers' fantasy stuff.

And so ? Just consider we are at war. 

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3 minutes ago, Opl said:

And so ? Just consider we are at war. 

 

More nonsense.

At war with whom? And how does that apply to mass deportations?

Even if 'we' (you do not speak for 'we', but whatever) are at war, how do you suggest mass deportations to be carried out to the countries 'we are at war' with?

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5 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

How many more people have to die for the sake of Charlie Hebdo exercising their freedom of speech?! Is making fun of a religion really more important than the lives of your citizens, especially when you know perfectly well that your caricatures are not going to go down well and people have previously died for the same BS?! Just how selfish and egotistical can one be?! 

I won't try to comment on all the ways your post is foolish except to say that many lives have been lost in many countries for many years in support of freedom in all its forms. "A man who has nothing worth dying for has nothing worth living for." 

 

I don't know your homeland but it may be that your freedom to spout fatuous nonsense was preserved that way as well. 

 

Do you seriously think these attacks have anything at all to do with Charlie Hebdo? It's all about religious fanaticism served by repression and control.

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42 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

More nonsense.

At war with whom? And how does that apply to mass deportations?

Even if 'we' (you do not speak for 'we', but whatever) are at war, how do you suggest mass deportations to be carried out to the countries 'we are at war' with?

non sense ?

We were the innocents living peacefully despite the multiple terror attacks making hundreds of dead and injured, killing and harassement against our Police, firefighters, the killing perpetrated inside Jewish schools, high school, church set on fire, stabbing and beheading of priests and believers, teacher, what else... ? 

 

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45 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Again making claims without bothering to back them up.

 

Was Muslim  terrorism even a thing in 1789? How about checking the figures on a more relevant time scale? Or for that matter, one which corresponds to immigration and demographic statistics?

 

And no, people will not question the integration of 'home grown' groups, not even 'terrorist' ones, because it's totally irrelevant to the issue.

 

Your own comment regarding recent attacks an integrations would be better supported by showing statistics indicating the longer immigrants remain in France, the less chances of them being involved in such incidents.

I agree with you but must add that Muslim terrorism has been a thing since Mohammed and his goat invented Islam. 

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2 hours ago, Morch said:

 

It was earlier claimed (by @7by7, I think) that comments by Muslim religious leaders, authors and activists represented the majority of Muslims - or something close enough to that, anyway. If that's an acceptable proposition, then how come it does not apply to political leaders?

he is not a political leader, he holds no office and is not in a political party. and he said the teacher should not have been killed.

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The killing and beheading of these 3 persons inside Nice Notre-Dame Church  took place on the day of the Muslim feast of Aid Al  Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the prophet Mohammed

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2 hours ago, Opl said:

non sense ?

We were the innocents living peacefully despite the multiple terror attacks making hundreds of dead and injured, killing and harassement against our Police, firefighters, the killing perpetrated inside Jewish schools, high school, church set on fire, stabbing and beheading of priests and believers, teacher, what else... ? 

 

 

Well emotive nonsense now. You have no argument, you do not address points made - just go on about some "we" that you pretend to speak for. I am not denying Muslim/Islamic/whatever terrorism. I do not think it should be ignored or appeased. But what you offered earlier is neither practical nor moral.

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2 hours ago, RocketDog said:

I agree with you but must add that Muslim terrorism has been a thing since Mohammed and his goat invented Islam. 

 

The Goat had nothing to do with it. That's how the term 'scapegoat' came about.

But seriously, even if you hold such a view, it's hardly relevant to my post or the comment I replied to. It's all very well for Muslims/Islamists/Whatever to live in the past, but I should like to think other parties deal with the here and now.

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1 hour ago, Sujo said:

he is not a political leader, he holds no office and is not in a political party. and he said the teacher should not have been killed.

 

Splitting hairs. OK, a retired political leader. Do you think his words get significantly less coverage and traction compared with the likes cited in previous examples? And yes, he said one thing, then said another. I don't know that the first one takes precedence, or that the two even out or what's your point.

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