Three dead as woman beheaded in knife attack at French church

[Sujo 16,946]

3 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Try Erdogan and Mahathir, they speak for millions of their followers

Mahathir said he does not agree with the killing of the teacher.

[norfolkandchance 707]

Good video doing the rounds, Cornered by the Police and then shot.

[Susco 5,517]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Mahathir said he does not agree with the killing of the teacher.

 

Nice try to deflect, why not post the whole quote?

 

No need to reply as I will not respond. and my ignore finger is itching already

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysias-mahathir-says-muslims-have-right-to-kill-french-twitter-deletes-post

 

Referring to the recent beheading of French teacher Samuel Paty in Paris, who showed pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, Mahathir said he did not approve of that attack but freedom of expression does not include "insulting other people".

"Irrespective of the religion professed, angry people kill," said the outspoken 95-year-old, who has in the past drawn controversy for remarks attacking Jews and the LGBT community.

[Sujo 16,946]

5 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Nice try to deflect, why not post the whole quote?

 

No need to reply as I will not respond. and my ignore finger is itching already

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysias-mahathir-says-muslims-have-right-to-kill-french-twitter-deletes-post

 

Referring to the recent beheading of French teacher Samuel Paty in Paris, who showed pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, Mahathir said he did not approve of that attack but freedom of expression does not include "insulting other people".

"Irrespective of the religion professed, angry people kill," said the outspoken 95-year-old, who has in the past drawn controversy for remarks attacking Jews and the LGBT community.

Correct, he does not think it appropriate what the teacher did but does not agree with his murder.

 

what part of that do you not understand.

 

Why on earth would i care if you ignore me. 

Edited October 30, 2020 by Sujo

[simple1 19,716]

1 hour ago, Opl said:

We just deported a Croatian Muslim family who shaved and violently mistreated their daughter for dating a Christian Serbian..

We can change our laws too for instance deprive families of repeated outlaws and suspected islamists from social welfare benefits, chain migration rights, whatever..

We could change our laws concerning citizenship, we could change any law they use at their advantage against us.

The gross stupidity is to bury our heads in the sand believing it's a small minority. 

An even grosser stupidity would be to consider France is an exception 

 

Kindly do not misrepresent my comment/s. 

 

As you well know, I was talking to the suggested forced deportation of Muslims living in France who have not committed an offence. There is no suggestion from me for the French government to 'bury it's head', concerning any form of abuse / terrorism.

 

[Susco 5,517]

6 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Correct, he does not think it appropriate what the teacher did but does not agree with his murder.

 

what part of that do you not understand.

 

Why on earth would i care if you ignore me. 

 Which part of " Malaysia's former leader Mahathir Mohamad tweeted on Thursday (Oct 29) Muslims had a right "to kill millions of French people" after a deadly attack in Nice, " is it that you don't understand?

 

Ok fine, he didn't approve of the murder of ONE particular person, but he approves the killing of MILLIONS other French people

[Opl 5,504]

12 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Kindly do not misrepresent my comment/s. 

 

As you well know, I was talking to the suggested forced deportation of Muslims living in France who have not committed an offence. There is no suggestion from me for the French government to 'bury it's head', concerning any form of abuse / terrorism.

 

Do not mispresent my comments ?  

There is no lone wolf, the friends, the family, the siblings, the spouses, the neighbors, the neighbors of the neighbors, all shut up, protect each other... and we are the victims of our tolerance.

This time is over, and our country prevails.

I don't care if you had to leave your country because your people don't accept single mothers, if your son is trafficking and harassing our police,  then you should be  in trouble.

We are fed up of beeing weak by beeing fair at our expenses and detriment.

Edited October 30, 2020 by Opl

[simple1 19,716]

9 minutes ago, Opl said:

Do not mispresent my comments ?  

There is no lone wolf, the friends, the family, the siblings, the spouses, the neighbors, the neighbors of the neighbors, all shut up, protect each other... and we are the victims of our tolerance.

This time is over, and our country prevails.

I don't care if you had to leave your country because your people don't accept single mothers, if your son is trafficking and harassing our police,  then you should be  in trouble.

We are fed up of beeing weak by beeing fair at our expenses and detriment.

 

Again nothing to do with my post, just a nationalist rant. 

 

Do you support the suggested forced deportation, as an act of retribution, of Muslims who have not committed any offence contrary to French law? Yes / No...

Edited October 30, 2020 by simple1

[Opl 5,504]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

 

Again nothing to do with my post, just a rant. 

 

Do you support the suggested forced deportation, as an act of retribution, of Muslims who have not committed any offence contrary to French law? Yes / No...

 

I repeat I don't care

[Ganesh108 462]

I firmly believe that the majority Muslims are not compatible with life in the West, and war-like scenarios in Europe are only a few years away. 

 

I'm in favour of strict separation of the Islamic world and all the rest of the world - peaceful coexistence is not possible in the long run. The West doesn't need them, there's nothing good that they bring. Absolutely nothing. 

[simple1 19,716]

Just now, Opl said:

 

I repeat I don't care

 

I believe your indifference to proposed cruelty by the French State against innocent Muslims is not the way forward for France, as I said before would be an act of gross stupidity. Totally opposite to the advice of professional counter terrorism experts POV. No point in further communication with you on this topic. .

[Thorgal 1,894]

3 minutes ago, Ganesh108 said:

I firmly believe that the majority Muslims are not compatible with life in the West, and war-like scenarios in Europe are only a few years away. 

 

I'm in favour of strict separation of the Islamic world and all the rest of the world - peaceful coexistence is not possible in the long run. The West doesn't need them, there's nothing good that they bring. Absolutely nothing. 

 

Muslim terrorism only represent 1% of total French terrorism acts since 1789.

 

Majority of terrorism acts in France were perpetrated by separatist right wing groups. You don’t question their integration.

 

Attacks of this month were perpetrated by people residing (legally and/or illegally) not longer than 3 years on French soil. Your lack of integration claim is false.

[Morch 16,906]

3 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

French police studies reported a sad trend of average 120 daily stabbings for the last 3 years.

The attacker from OP is for sure accountable for 3 of the average 120 daily stabbings.

From a criminology POV you will continue to result in the average of 120 stabbings per day in France with or without the negative influx of migration and radical Islamists.

 

You do no provide any links to support your statements. You do not provide a rationale limiting the scope of the analysis to the last 3 years. I don't know that there was a huge difference regarding 'influx of migration and radical Islamists' in these last 3 years - my guess is that thing may look a bit different if one extends the scope to earlier times.

[Morch 16,906]

3 hours ago, Opl said:

 

To the Muslim World France is already an international pariah,  so what ?.. 

Enough of being shy to defend our country in fear of hurting Muslims' feelings 

 

What, in your opinion, does 'the Muslim World' stand for? Governments? People? Religious leaders? I don't think that there's a full congruence between these with regard to such matters, or that such sentiments are permanent

 

Other than Erdogan calling his ambassador back, was there any Arab/Muslim country cutting ties with France?

[Morch 16,906]

3 hours ago, Opl said:

We just deported a Croatian Muslim family who shaved and violently mistreated their daughter for dating a Christian Serbian..

We can change our laws too for instance deprive families of repeated outlaws and suspected islamists from social welfare benefits, chain migration rights, whatever..

We could change our laws concerning citizenship, we could change any law they use at their advantage against us.

The gross stupidity is to bury our heads in the sand believing it's a small minority. 

An even grosser stupidity would be to consider France is an exception 

 

That's very different from wholesale deporting of innocent people based on their nationality/religion alone. Further, I would assume that there are treaties in place between France and Croatia regulating such issues. Without such agreements, such mass deportations would remain right-wingers' fantasy stuff.