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4 minutes ago, Bkktodd said:

Makes perfect sense.   What’s different is that self isolation is not a money making cure for thailand

That is 100% correct.  There has to be money made somewhere here, so why not with quarantine.  They unfortunately are killing themselves with this issue.

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That's still 10 days too much.

Thailands low Covid numbers are based on luck, lies and low numbers of testing.   The lucky part is related to its climate, the social behaviour and a possible genetic predisposition of the

the wise one has spoken.... did he forgot that a French lady stayed in quarantine for 14 days and tested negative, a week later  travel to Kho Samui and then tested positive

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3 minutes ago, connda said:


What a farce.  Do these people expect to be taken seriously.  What's the point?

The point is they get to control farang and makes them.feel powerful..let them destroy Thailand 

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8 minutes ago, Flying Saucage said:

 

Thailand has a hot climate, and in Europe during summer the hospitals were empty as well. It is a false narrative to always claim that the hospitals in Europe were full of dying people all the time. The Covid deaths per day in Europe were around 10 per country during summer.

 

I agree that now in autumn the numbers in Europe are growing. This only confirms the impact of the climate, and nobody should neglect that when comparing countries.

 

It is quite likely that the situation in Thailand is similar to Europe during summer time, but with very few testing one will never know. But 10 deaths per day with a diagnosis on pneumonia hardly would cause a lot of publicity.

 

And also it is quite clear that European tourists, if tested negative, would not pose a big danger when arriving to Thailand, as the Thai climate helps to prevend a spread of the virus even if one is tested false negative. 

 

 

 

I spend alot of time in Florida and India .... the hot climates aren't helping them. Sure they may contribute, but it's not the overriding reason. 

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23 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Committee Agrees to Reduce Travel Quarantine

 

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BANGKOK, Oct 29 (TNA) – The National Communicable Disease Committee agreed to reduce travel quarantine to 10 days from 14 days in Thursday’s meeting, said Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Ministry Anutin  Charnvirakul.

 

The Disease Control Department will issue strict regulations on the new measures to monitor the quarantinees for another four days after they complete the mandatory 10-day quarantine.

 

Contact tracing system will be put in place and they must adhere to social distancing rules, avoid crowded places and wear face covering.

 

Full Story: https://tna.mcot.net/english-news/line-today-english-news-573375

 

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... hope soon it will be 7 days 🙂 Then I will think about travel to Thailand!

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Why not allow foreigners to go to their homes purchased in Thailand and initiate strict tracing rules for the full 14 days..

 

Solved.

 

Next.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, AndrewMciver said:

 

I spend alot of time in Florida and India .... the hot climates aren't helping them. Sure they may contribute, but it's not the overriding reason. 

 

It IS the overriding reason, as shown by European numbers today. This has to do with the livetime of contaminated aerosoles and droplets in the ambient air. But it is related with other effects of course.

 

In India you have a very dense population, which can lead to high infection rates even when the lifetime of the droplets/aerosoles is shorter due to the heat. And in Florida, you might have had parties in, or even Covid-parties, as strong drivers. 

 

In Europe, one of the strongest drivers for the growing numbers in the recent weeks were big indoor parties of Arab and Turkish families with hundreds of participants. Such a behaviour together with the hot and wet climate made the situation more serious now. It's in the news daily.

 

Thailand is a save country regarding Covid and would stay save also with open borders, Western tourists and no quarantine, due to the climate, some social characteristics and the usual way that tourists enjoy the hot weather outdoors whenever possible. Negative tests when entering the country, some sensible advices and a minimum discipline of the visitors would be sufficient.

 

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7 hours ago, rabas said:

There's a graph for that, from Cambridge:

 

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You are right, about 10-20% will test positive after 10 days! 

 

Even at 14 days, 1 out of 100 will test positive. I read about 4 to 10 testing positive during quarantine almost everyday. So even now, 1 will test positive after quarantine every 2 weeks, like the thai lady did.

 

So Anutin's thinking: as a new wave sweeps the world, make sure 20% get in.  Lord almighty, a concrete worker, responsible for immunology, for a Thai military government.

Catching 70-80% of all infected individuals is a higher efficiency than the vaccines currently in third stage trials can offer. 
 

Also, when playing with statistics like this, please remember that most if not all of the people eligible for this 10 day quarantine have been tested before their flights. And we know that an extremely low percentage of these have been found     to be infected during the 14 day quarantine. Almost all of the infections found have been among the untested Thai travellers. 
 

So if the current scheme has thrown up ten infected individuals, reducing the quarantine with four days might mean we miss one or two infected individuals, given the same volume of travellers. Hardly something to get alarmed about. 

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41 minutes ago, Flying Saucage said:

 

Thailand has a hot climate, and in Europe during summer the hospitals were empty as well. It is a false narrative to always claim that the hospitals in Europe were full of dying people all the time. The Covid deaths per day in Europe were around 10 per country during summer.

 

I agree that now in autumn the numbers in Europe are growing. This only confirms the impact of the climate, and nobody should neglect that when comparing countries.

 

It is quite likely that the situation in Thailand is similar to Europe during summer time, but with very few testing one will never know. But 10 deaths per day with a diagnosis on pneumonia hardly would cause a lot of publicity.

 

And also it is quite clear that European tourists, if tested negative, would not pose a big danger when arriving to Thailand, as the Thai climate helps to prevend a spread of the virus even if one is tested false negative. 

 

 

You could attribute it to the weather. But there are other factors at play. The warmer season coincides with holidays, kids not being in school, adults not going to work, people not crowding the public transport system. When they return to their normal routines the infection numbers go up. Whatever the weather is. 
 

I’ve noticed something weird about the hospitalisation statistics. The numbers have been going up in Europe for number of patients in ICUs. It’s an undulating curve. It dips at the end of every calendar month and then rises. How can that be? Do people miraculously get better around paydays?

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1 hour ago, AndrewMciver said:

Is this just a recommendation or a proposal ? 

 

Personally ... they've caught quite a few cases around the 14 day mark, that it wouldn't make sense. 

 

 

That’s when they are tested. Once at the beginning of quarantine and once around day 11, which is the twelfth or thirteenth day depending on how they count day 1. 

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2 hours ago, ukrules said:

It's not about deaths, it's about avoiding overloaded ICU in the hospitals.

 

 

 

Ah, so deaths mean nothing 🙂 I see.

And you don't see a correlation between deaths and hospitalisations?

Denmark has had nearly no restrictions for the past two months (yesterday got some), and has 125 hospitalisations right now, 18 in intensive care, 6 in respirator.

Exactly what planet are you from? Care to do just a little bit of research before you claim anything? 

Jesus!

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