Pattaya Spotter Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Sujo said: Not for those subject to mass murder. I agree...the gun deaths in Democrat cities like Chicago and Detroit are a scandal. Do you have any suggestions on how to stop these people from shooting each other? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NumbNut Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Agree...advances in technology are great aren't they. Imagine having to take out all those Nazis and Imperial Japanese soldiers one by one. British and commonwealth soldiers from WWII did exactly that, with the famed Lee Enfield bolt action rifle, standard rifle of WWII. Lee-Enfield Rifle 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I have mentioned it before,the second amendment is going to backfire. All of those guns are going to be used at some point,some people just can't wait! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: I agree...the gun deaths in Democrat cities like Chicago and Detroit are a scandal. Do you have any suggestions on how to stop these people from shooting each other? Yes, act like civilised societies and make gun ownership very difficult. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpy one Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 Damn. Where are the red necks, homicidal mothers and trump supporters going to stock up on much needed supplies now 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya Spotter Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sujo said: You must really be scared n thailand without your gun. Hows the basement. Random petty and serious personal and property crime isn't a big problem in Thailand so there isn't the need for personal firearms (though I do miss having them). It isn't like living in Chicago, Philadelphia, Washington DC, or Detroit (Paris or Nice either). Edited October 30, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sujo said: Yes, act like civilised societies and make gun ownership very difficult. It already is very difficult in these Democrat Party run cities. Suggestion No. 2? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, NumbNut said: British and commonwealth soldiers from WWII did exactly that, with the famed Lee Enfield bolt action rifle, standard rifle of WWII. Lee-Enfield Rifle Same with the Americans and their M1 carbines. That a beautiful rifle BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Surelynot said: Just imagine how safe America would be if they ALL had guns and could carry their guns ALL the time where ever they went. That is the logical extension isn't it? A veiled attempt at sarcasm surely. But in states or counties that have better gun laws and much better carry laws the amount of crime is lower than states or counties that have very strict gun laws. PS: Criminals seem to have no trouble getting guns. And no background checks Edited October 30, 2020 by Grumpy John Ps: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grumpy one said: Damn. Where are the red necks, homicidal mothers and trump supporters going to stock up on much needed supplies now I would think, still at Walmart, since they're still selling... Unless, Walmart knowing the clientele you mention, has figured that they're not crafty enough to think to ASK for their supplies if they don't see them on the shelves??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sujo said: Yes, act like civilised societies and make gun ownership very difficult. In a truly civilized society guns would not be an issue, just like 60 years ago. What changed? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy one Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: I would think, still at Walmart, since they're still selling... Unless, Walmart knowing the clientele you mention, has figured that they're not crafty enough to think to ASK for their supplies if they don't see them on the shelves??? Who said trump supporters think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NumbNut Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Same with the Americans and their M1 carbines. That a beautiful rifle BTW. The Lee Enfield is a bolt-action rifle. Both the Garand and M1 were semi-auto. There's a world of difference 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: It already is very difficult in these Democrat Party run cities. Suggestion No. 2? It doesnt matter where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 If/When things hit the fan, and afterwards when there is a reckoning, Walmart is covering its backside if accused of promoting the madness by selling arms and ammo. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, NumbNut said: British and commonwealth soldiers from WWII did exactly that, with the famed Lee Enfield bolt action rifle, standard rifle of WWII. Lee-Enfield Rifle It used to weigh 9 pounds and 10 ounces without a full magazine as anybody who has slow marched the length of the parade ground with one on his shoulder. A few trips on the parade ground non stop and you will swear that it weighs about 50 pounds in weight. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, Grumpy John said: A veiled attempt at sarcasm surely. But in states or counties that have better gun laws and much better carry laws the amount of crime is lower than states or counties that have very strict gun laws. PS: Criminals seem to have no trouble getting guns. And no background checks Then the problem seems to be how enforce the gun laws to prevent criminals from buying guns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Off topic posts debating the history of WWII have been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Criminals will get guns. Simple, sad fact. So, what to do about it? I propose a mandatory extra 10-20 year add-on to any criminal conviction which involved a firearm. Not up for negotiation, plea bargain, or time off for good behavior. I don't own a gun, don't want to either. But I understand how many Americans feel about them. It is a culture that many of us didn't grow up in. I was a bit of a country boy back in the day, but my exposure to firearms was limited to my grandfather's 22 calibre single shot rifle that we used to plink tin cans off my cousin's back fence. Then I carried a 'real' rifle in the military, after that I kind of lost interest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Hanaguma said: Criminals will get guns. Simple, sad fact. So, what to do about it? Far more difficult for criminals to get guns if they are banned. Very little gun crime in the UK now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, polpott said: Far more difficult for criminals to get guns if they are banned. Very little gun crime in the UK now. True, but irrelevant to the American context. It's too late for banning them. How will they be effectively taken/confiscated? It can't be done, so IMHO the drive to remove them won't ever have any success. Plus there is that pesky "Constitution" thing... Plus the UK has other crimes to worry about . From what I understand, the robbery and assault rates are staggering. Lots of petty crime and bold thieves who don't have to worry about being either caught or shot. Not a great solution either I think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) OK, what famous person lived here ? .....and didn't shoot anyone (in real life) http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6F-2TgxGNm4/maxresdefault.jpg Edited October 30, 2020 by RichardColeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Bible section still OK? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: True, but irrelevant to the American context. It's too late for banning them. How will they be effectively taken/confiscated? It can't be done, so IMHO the drive to remove them won't ever have any success. Plus there is that pesky "Constitution" thing... Plus the UK has other crimes to worry about . From what I understand, the robbery and assault rates are staggering. Lots of petty crime and bold thieves who don't have to worry about being either caught or shot. Not a great solution either I think. You could ban them but its your 200 year old constitution that is the stumbling block. better the British way, we don't have a constitution. And our assault and robbery rates are far less than in the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: It already is very difficult in these Democrat Party run cities. Suggestion No. 2? Difficult for non criminals that is. Criminals apparently have no problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 According to these statistics they are not... https://fullfact.org/crime/robbery-uk-world-leader/ The UK overtook the US in 2017. But in any case you could try banning guns in the US. Good luck with that. If even 10% of people refused, you would still have millions of firearms in circulation, and I can guarantee that more than 10% of gun owners would refuse. So realisticallly another solution is needed. The whole gun banning thing didn't work out too well in Australia when they tried after a mass shooting. There is little evidence that it had any effect other than to disarm the population. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, polpott said: Far more difficult for criminals to get guns if they are banned. Very little gun crime in the UK now. Lots of knife and acid on face crimes...ban those next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 37 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Criminals will get guns. Simple, sad fact. So, what to do about it? I propose a mandatory extra 10-20 year add-on to any criminal conviction which involved a firearm. Not up for negotiation, plea bargain, or time off for good behavior. I don't own a gun, don't want to either. But I understand how many Americans feel about them. It is a culture that many of us didn't grow up in. I was a bit of a country boy back in the day, but my exposure to firearms was limited to my grandfather's 22 calibre single shot rifle that we used to plink tin cans off my cousin's back fence. Then I carried a 'real' rifle in the military, after that I kind of lost interest. I used to enjoy target shooting on a 1000 yard range, but then I went overseas so gave it up. Still a popular sport though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Grumpy John said: Just imagine how safe America would be if they ALL had guns and could carry their guns ALL the time where ever they went. That is the goal of the Constitutional Gun Carry movement...still a bit in the future unfortunately. Edited October 30, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: I used to enjoy target shooting on a 1000 yard range, but then I went overseas so gave it up. Still a popular sport though. I was pretty good out to about 500 yards, but we were just using the stock iron sights. At that time, we carried the FN-C1A1, a variant of the Belgian FN-FAL. It was pretty funny because the rifle I was assigned was actually 7 years older than I was! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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