"Pattaya Model": Mayor targets Chinese and Russian visitors - quarantine hotels named

[Oldie]

3 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

 

The small farang owned/run bars and associated bar girls are what gave Pattaya its buzz over the last 50 years.

They will be remembered at Madame Tussauds in the Royal Garden Plaza if they are lucky. Things changed during the last years. The new young generation seems to be different. 

[redwood1]

This article says the budget is 80 million baht a few days ago it was 80 billion baht.....So which is it....

[Oldie]

5 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

In humour, many say to bulldoze whole soi's and start again.  I don't see this as possible, unless a whole soi is owned by an individual or company, so, I can't see how the land, or the current buildings, can be repurposed to anything else than selling alcohol and / or sex.  

 

Some examples. If I look at Tree Town and the Excite Disco area. Long time they were unused and now they built/build some cheap structures. Can it be that it is used somehow because there is a new relatively high tax on unused areas? Just to avoid this tax that can be very many millions? And look at Made in Thailand - a prime location used for a pretty simple market. I think the owner will not hesitate to sell it for a good price. Pattaya has a lot of space that can be used for big business. And in respect of the many small buildings - some of them will collapse on their own... 

[Leaver]

18 minutes ago, Oldie said:

Some examples. If I look at Tree Town and the Excite Disco area. Long time they were unused and now they built/build some cheap structures. Can it be that it is used somehow because there is a new relatively high tax on unused areas? Just to avoid this tax that can be very many millions? And look at Made in Thailand - a prime location used for a pretty simple market. I think the owner will not hesitate to sell it for a good price. Pattaya has a lot of space that can be used for big business. And in respect of the many small buildings - some of them will collapse on their own... 

Just to clarify, it was my understanding we were discussing existing structures being constructed of brick, not the tin roof beer bar complexes, which I agree with you, their days are numbered.  

 

Yes, I see banana farms are popping up on unimproved land in order to escape the tax.

 

However, let's just say "big business" buy a large parcel of land and build a hotel, shopping mall, theme park, casino, or whatever.  It will be surrounded by hundreds of small empty buildings.  Those small building can not really be repurposed unless flattened, and the land redeveloped.

 

As for Soi Made in Thailand, just like all the beer bar complexes here now, they will be gone in the near future. This was something that could be seen pre Covid. 

  

Edited October 31, 2020 by Leaver

[KhaoYai]

'Travel Bubbles', 'STV', 'ALSQ', 'Pattaya Model'..................................probably more

 

When will they get it - the vast majority of tourists get a limited amount of time off work and will not spend all/the majority of their holiday in any form of quarantine. Nor will they pay for insurance, inflated flight prices etc. etc.

 

The numbers that can stay long term and accept quarantine will hardly scratch the surface of the economic devastation in the Thai tourist industry.  I'm not saying quarantine should be scapped but until it ends - they have to accept that there will be no noticeable recovery.

 

Surely that's not rocket science? Why do they keep coming up with these pointless schemes? Do they just like to see theirselves on TV?

[Burma Bill]

1 hour ago, twocatsmac said:

 

The small farang owned/run bars and associated bar girls are what gave Pattaya its buzz over the last 50 years.

Now time for a complete change????

[Leaver]

2 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

Now time for a complete change????

Change to what?

 

The beach here will never draw high end tourists.  

[scammed]

On 10/30/2020 at 9:38 AM, webfact said:

Last year Pattaya had 3 million visitors from China and 1.1 million from Russia, the most from abroad.

i see this on the streets in pattaya, big c and 7/11,

they represent a lot more customers then in ages past

[daveAustin]

18 hours ago, Oldie said:

Many countries here in Asia have blocked tourists completely. Thailand allows them at least with quarantine. Not true? Look below for Vietnam for instance. So if the people don't like the Thai regulations they should go there ????

 

"As of today, the Vietnamese government continues to suspend entry into Vietnam to all foreigners, including people with a Vietnamese visa exemption certificate."

 

 https://vn.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/covid-19-information/

Easy for commie gov to do (though admittedly Thailand is not far off), but Vietnam's tourism GDP % is a fair bit behind Thailand afaik. Fear these countries doing complete blocks will have to contend with this thing for generations.

[daveAustin]

On 10/30/2020 at 2:38 AM, webfact said:

Last year Pattaya had 3 million visitors from China and 1.1 million from Russia, the most from abroad. 

Yeah, sad that something like this would be needed to bring that horrible statistic under control. 

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, redwood1 said:

This article says the budget is 80 million baht a few days ago it was 80 billion baht.....So which is it....

Somebody skimming already!

[spidermike007]

22 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I thought the idea was scrapped already.

 

They keep trying to revive it. Or an alternative, like high speed cargo rail, or a super highway. Something is needed. Thailand desperately needs to improve on infrastructure, when it comes to cargo. It could lessen the need for highway transport of some goods. The highways are absolutely choked. 

[Leaver]

8 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Easy for commie gov to do (though admittedly Thailand is not far off), but Vietnam's tourism GDP % is a fair bit behind Thailand afaik. Fear these countries doing complete blocks will have to contend with this thing for generations.

Vietnam was looking at travel bubbles with selected countries with similar low rates of infection.  They then had a flare up of the virus, which which delayed that plan.    

[Pilotman]

On 10/30/2020 at 10:06 AM, Rmac442 said:

Nothing like a bit of quality !! 

Hill-mannered and Chinese zero spend tourists ..

yep, he really knows how to pick them. 

[jacko45k]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

 

They keep trying to revive it. Or an alternative, like high speed cargo rail, or a super highway. Something is needed. Thailand desperately needs to improve on infrastructure, when it comes to cargo. It could lessen the need for highway transport of some goods. The highways are absolutely choked. 

But that project is more about benefit to China. IE Getting through Thailand rather thn arond it.

[ChakaKhan]

On 10/30/2020 at 4:44 AM, Cake Monster said:

Pattaya will be like the London of the Black Death era, where guys wander the streets shouting " Bring out you Dead ", and they were promptly thrown onto a cart and wheeled away for burial in a Lime Pit.

Both Russia and China do not have Covid under control, so the Mayor will bring Death and Pestulance to the City with this cranky idea.

Sounds like the States right now.....thanks to the Superspreader himself....Welcome to the Death Cult

[Nook225]

On 10/29/2020 at 8:06 PM, Rmac442 said:

Nothing like a bit of quality !! 

Hill-mannered and Chinese zero spend tourists ..

At least they,generally speaking, don't rob, kill, sell drugs, molest underage children, contribute to prostitution or otherwise spoil the country. Most of them are bona fide tourists. That is what Thai are trying to say.

[KhunFred]

This is how Mayors end up in hot water. Challenging the Chinese and Russian mafia is most unwise.

[pattayadude]

On 10/30/2020 at 5:36 PM, Operator2002 said:

Turkey received over a million of Russian tourists since 1 August 2020 taking temperature on arrival and testing those with any symptoms of covid19.

and somehow covid-19 cases skyrocketed in Turkey to 20,000 a day after opening the country to tourism

[treetops]

4 hours ago, pattayadude said:

and somehow covid-19 cases skyrocketed in Turkey to 20,000 a day after opening the country to tourism

 

I think you may have made that up?