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New Zealand approves euthanasia, set to reject recreational marijuana

By Colin Packham

 

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FILE PHOTO: Voters wait outside a polling station at the St Heliers Tennis Club during the general election in Auckland, New Zealand, September 23, 2017. REUTERS/Nigel Marple

 

(Reuters) - New Zealand has provisionally voted to legalise euthanasia but is on course to reject law changes that would allow recreational marijuana use, the country's Electoral Commission said on Friday.

 

New Zealand voted on the two referendums this month while casting ballots during a general election that returned Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to power.

 

Issuing preliminary results, the commission said there are nearly half a million mostly overseas-based special votes still to be counted. These votes will not be enough to alter the vote on euthanasia but may be enough to swing the count on recreational marijuana, it said.

 

Full results will be published on Nov. 6, but with more than 65.2% of voters in favour of the recently passed legislation permitting euthanasia, New Zealand will become the seventh country to allow assisted suicide.

 

The law - which allows terminal patients with less than six months to live to request assisted suicide - will come into effect in November 2021.

 

Those requesting euthanasia will have to be 18 and will need the approval of two doctors.

 

While euthanasia has been endorsed, recreational marijuana use is still up in the air.

 

New Zealand's Electoral Commission said 53.1% of voters opposed the country becoming only the third to legalise the adult use and sale of cannabis, following Canada and Uruguay.

 

In 2017, Ardern supported the cannabis referendum plan in order to secure enough support to form a coalition government.

 

Ardern throughout the campaign refused to say which way she would vote, but a representative on Friday said the prime minister voted in support of both referendums.

 

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Good that euthanasia will be legal, I think it should be the right of anyone at any time to decide, would avoid suicides

I want to have a painless death at a time of my choosing, not because I'm screaming with pain. Suicide is actually quite hard to do successfully. Why does anyone think they can dictate to me

Don't you think it is very disturbing that some government may decide about your life and when you may die and when you must live ? I feel it is up to any grown up to decide if they want to live or no

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46 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I voted for on both, but the euthanasia bill doesn't go far enough for me, though it's a start.

I think many voted against the mj on the basis it wouldn't stop the gangs being involved. It's already easy to get as much as wanted, or so I'm told, and the cops won't arrest anyone with small amount. They've better things to do with their time.

I am genuinely curious  to know why  you  say "does not  go far  enough ".

 

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8 minutes ago, CygnusX1 said:

The article states that it will only apply to people who’ve been diagnosed with a terminal condition and who have less than 6 months to live. That excludes people who for example might be in an immense amount of pain from a non terminal condition, or who may have been rendered totally immobile or blind, etc, and who wish to die. That of course in no way implies that many or most quadriplegics and blind people can’t have enjoyable and fulfilling lives, just would give them the choice.

There are instances involving individuals I have  personally been involved with occupationally who  have been rendered permanently almost  100% immobile but due to  medical intervention have  "survived" and despite desperately  managed communicating  a desire to discontinue "living" have been denied the option.

Sad as that is survival in that context  may be dependent  on  continued  support and involves  a whole other question about such intervention but there is  no predictable expectation in future  point of termination as there is with  terminal disease conditions.

In your reference to quads and or the blind  being provided  the "choice" could also be considered  crossing  the boundary of any ethical limits in terms of  "assisted" death because it does not  necessarily involve a specified terminal expectation of  death as a direct result of physical state. Especially in the affliction of  being blinded by accident or disease. A psychological state requesting death need  be removed from any question of assistance in provision  if it does  not involve any physical justification because of the danger of inducement .

Suicide of the  physically healthy is an indictment of social influences and expectations  far in excess of the cause of   identifiable "disease" .

Or  should we return to adopt the practices of the ancient Greeks who are considered an historic advanced  civilization and under compulsory social by the "ruling  class"  edict  caste  all "defectives" over a cliff into the sea as  "special " offerings to the  Gods?

No  longer available to ask but  perhaps  Stephen Hawkins  could  have had an interesting  opinion on the subject.

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

euthanasia will be legal, I think it should be the right of anyone at any time to decide, would avoid suicides

Euthanasia is just self inflicted murder committed by an approved accomplice!

 

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53 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Or  should we return to adopt the practices of the ancient Greeks who are considered an historic advanced  civilization and under compulsory social by the "ruling  class"  edict  caste  all "defectives" over a cliff into the sea as  "special " offerings to the  Gods?

Can you please translate the above, and the rest of your dissertation, into plain English, or other understandable language,  so the rest of us non suicidal people can get on with our lives.  If you don't there is a chance some of us just might tend that way!

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