Calls for Thais to work factory jobs previously done by absent migrants

[rooster59]

Calls for Thais to work factory jobs previously done by absent migrants

 

Image: Daily News

 

A deputy at the Chamber of Commerce and Board of Trade of Thailand has appealed to the government for help in trying to persuade Thais to take up employment in factories. 

 

Phot Aramwattananon said that due to the pandemic hundreds of thousands of migrant workers had gone back to neighboring countries leaving a great hole in many factory based industries. 

 

The migrants have not come back despite the country having the virus under control. 

 

Phot said that most Thais do not want to do their jobs despite being out of work themselves. 

 

He pointed to the food processing industry, food in general, agriculture and rubber gloves in particular. 

 

He wants the state to help in encouraging Thai workers to take up employment in factories to fill the shortfall.

 

He further cautioned that in the future more Thais would lose their jobs in factories due to increased automation.

 

Source: Daily News

 

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[robblok]

Maybe if you increase the wages a bit they would be more inclined to work there. But face it a production job is not something most people want to do. I know I studied hard to never having to do it. 

 

Learned from my jobs while studying the things i absolutely did not want to do. So i studied on. So I understand people not wanting to do stupid jobs like that. But higher pay and the fact that they have no job should persuade them.

[ThreeEyedRaven]

10 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Phot said that most Thais do not want to do their jobs despite being out of work themselves. 

What's this? Thais being accused of being lazy and not wanting to work? Lock this fella up for spreading what must be fake news surely? 

[ThailandRyan]

Oh yeah, I am sure the Thai's will take 300 Baht a day working in pressure cooker conditions, where there is a daily quota to be completed.  No not a lie.  My GF's Aunt and husband from Myanmar just quit their jobs down near Suvarnabhumi in the industrial park.  10 to 12 hour days, 6 days a week, low wages, and the owner promising to take care of the Non-LA Visa extension after taking money from him and the other workers, but never completing the process, and now almost all workers there are here illegally.  

[Pattaya Spotter]

25 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

He further cautioned that in the future more Thais would lose their jobs in factories due to increased automation. 

So he wants Thais to take up jobs he admits have no future.

[colinneil]

19 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Phot said that most Thais do not want to do their jobs despite being out of themselves

 

Good heavens, whats he thinking about, not wanting to do their jobs despite being out of work, aint gonna happen mate, locals will not stoop so low as doing menial tasks, it is below them.

[Pattaya Spotter]

Maybe when they see Khun Phot's kids on the fish-gutting line, more Thais will join join them working food processing jobs.

[KhunKenAP]

Perhaps Prayut will need one of these jobs, soon. Hopefully very soon.

[ChipButty]

More chance of landing on the moon, In Phuket they've had it to good to go back to sticky rice land for 300 Baht per day

[Boomer6969]

This makes perfect sense, any unemployed Thai refusing a factory (or any other) job during the COVID crisis is letting his/her country down. Why winge about lost jobs in the tourism sector while there are unfilled positions in the manufacturing sector?

 

And there is so much work, everywhere, that the country needs to get rid of its third world look. Let's think about this, wouldn't that be a nice way to become more competitive as an "up market" destination once COVID is over?

 

[Forza2002]

I think the shock would be to much for most Thais having to work 10-12 hours a day and not have time to look at Facebook or play video games...

[AlfHuy]

Firsts thing would be to ban all mobile devices, otherwise they can sit there 24h a day and still haven't done anything apart from adding to their Facebook and line.

[AlfHuy]

Strange thing is: Thais do not want do certain jobs because it's something for poor immigrants to do but on the other hand, they travel the world and do exactly the jobs abroad that they refuse to do at home.

[heist]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Calls for Thais to work

This will get the borders reopened faster than any plan the government has tried to implement. 

[Surelynot]

God...these people are so stupid....stop shipping in cheap labour and pay a decent wage....problem solved.

 

Thais are being ripped off every step of the way....whilst five or so Chinese families get richer and richer.

[NumbNut]

40 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

So he wants Thais to take up jobs he admits have no future.

 

Exactly, start paying a decent commensurate wage and you will start to see vacancies being filled with locals. Pay poorly and you won't, it's not rocket science.

 

So many enlightened tv posters so quick to pass judgement on Thai workers from their comfy bar stools.   

[Grumpy John]

15 minutes ago, AlfHuy said:

Firsts thing would be to ban all mobile devices, otherwise they can sit there 24h a day and still haven't done anything apart from adding to their Facebook and line.

Used to frustrate the ell out of my ball and chain having to switch back and forth....until she got a second phone!

 

[Pattaya Spotter]

4 minutes ago, NumbNut said:

 

Exactly, start paying a decent commensurate wage and you will start to see vacancies being filled with locals. Pay poorly and you won't, it's not rocket science.

 

So many enlightened tv posters so quick to pass judgement on Thai workers from their comfy bar stools.   

Maybe factory owners could train some of those coconut gathering monkeys for these jobs...then they could pay them peanuts ???? 

[Katipo]

I work in a factory with a 100% Thai labour force in production. It's amazing how willing people are to work when you pay them fairly, and provide decent working conditions.

[Chelseafan]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Maybe if you increase the wages a bit they would be more inclined to work there. But face it a production job is not something most people want to do. I know I studied hard to never having to do it. 

 

Learned from my jobs while studying the things i absolutely did not want to do. So i studied on. So I understand people not wanting to do stupid jobs like that. But higher pay and the fact that they have no job should persuade them.

 

Those "stupid" jobs are the ones that are feeding us and making our lives better.

 

Higher pay means that you become uncompetitive and end up going out of business.

 

Edited October 31, 2020 by Chelseafan

[Redline]

They would rather live at home and eat plain rice with fish sauce before such extreme measures were taken.

They can get on the welfare card list and wait it out.

 

How are they going to get all of these EEC workers?

I hope their skill schools are packed full because how is this EEC going to get off the ground, with billions after billions already committed?

Let’s see how the laziness factors into these issues 

Edited October 31, 2020 by Redline

[Chelseafan]

3 hours ago, NumbNut said:

 

Exactly, start paying a decent commensurate wage and you will start to see vacancies being filled with locals. Pay poorly and you won't, it's not rocket science.

 

So many enlightened tv posters so quick to pass judgement on Thai workers from their comfy bar stools.   

 

 

One of the factories I source from is having this exact same problem, i.e. finding locals to fill positions.

Peeling shrimp isn't one of the most glamorus jobs for sure but the owner has upped the daily rate from 380 baht to 500 (with additional overt-time and free meals) and still the locals wont do it. 500 baht a day is 14,000 per month (with holiday) which is a decent wage for uneducated locals. Paying this higher wage obviously hits his profitability, he cannot put up cost prices because he still needs to be competitive against local competitors and foreign markets

 

Additionlly, the US is one of his bigger markets and Trump has just hit him again by removing GSP for shellfish which will make Thailand highly uncompetitive.

 

 

Edited October 31, 2020 by Chelseafan

[colinneil]

3 hours ago, NumbNut said:

 

Exactly, start paying a decent commensurate wage and you will start to see vacancies being filled with locals. Pay poorly and you won't, it's not rocket science.

 

So many enlightened tv posters so quick to pass judgement on Thai workers from their comfy bar stools.   

Some people are clueless about what is happening around them, appears you fit that category.

I am passing judgement, not from a bar stool, dont drink, dont frequent bars.

Impossible to get locals to do menial tasks, even if you pay them well, i know, we have tried, people here who do not already have regular jobs are not interested in work, too bloody lazy.

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

 

 

One of the factories I source from is having this exact same problem, i.e. finding locals to fill positions.

Peeling shrimp isn't one of the most glamorus jobs for sure but the owner has upped the daily rate from 380 baht to 500 (with additional overt-time and free meals) and still the locals wont do it. 500 baht a day is 14,000 per month (with holiday) which is a decent wage for uneducated locals. Paying this higher wage obviously hits his profitability, he cannot put up cost prices because he still needs to be competitive against local competitors and foreign markets

 

Additionlly, the US is one of his bigger markets and Trump has just hit him again by removing GSP for shellfish which will make Thailand highly uncompetitive.

 

 

Still 500 bt a day while if you can work in a shop selling stuff and getting even more money what would you do. You also don't need much education for selling.

 

I do get what your saying but still the wages are not high compared to what is expected. In a shop there is a lot of idle time and stuff like that. Just saying that the wage is still not that much. (then again I live in BKK ) and know BKK salaries of ppl in shops and office work that did not require much education too. 

 

Manual labor would really be the lowest on my list to do. I did stuff like that when growing up. No way that I would do it again if the pay difference was that minimal. Id rather have less money and a better job.

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Some people are clueless about what is happening around them, appears you fit that category.

I am passing judgement, not from a bar stool, dont drink, dont frequent bars.

Impossible to get locals to do menial tasks, even if you pay them well, i know, we have tried, people here who do not already have regular jobs are not interested in work, too bloody lazy.

If they don't take a job when they obviously need money then they are just stupid. But if they have options why would anyone do menial tasks. It would really be a last resort especially when the pay difference isnt that big. 

[keithkarmann]

7 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Some people are clueless about what is happening around them, appears you fit that category.

I am passing judgement, not from a bar stool, dont drink, dont frequent bars.

Impossible to get locals to do menial tasks, even if you pay them well, i know, we have tried, people here who do not already have regular jobs are not interested in work, too bloody lazy.

Many are only concerned when their next meal is coming and if it arrives without doing a regular job then they will not get out of their hammocks. Many have their girlfriends working in bars.

[Chelseafan]

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

Still 500 bt a day while if you can work in a shop selling stuff and getting even more money what would you do. You also don't need much education for selling.

 

I do get what your saying but still the wages are not high compared to what is expected. In a shop there is a lot of idle time and stuff like that. Just saying that the wage is still not that much. (then again I live in BKK ) and know BKK salaries of ppl in shops and office work that did not require much education too. 

 

Manual labor would really be the lowest on my list to do. I did stuff like that when growing up. No way that I would do it again if the pay difference was that minimal. Id rather have less money and a better job.

 

The average daily wage in Thailand is circa 650 baht per day so paying workers 500 is very good money especially when the factories are located in more rural areas and cost of living is much lower.

 

Of course, no-one really wants to do manual labour in such a monotonous job but beggers cant be choosers.

 

[topt]

10 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

but beggers cant be choosers.

Unfortunately, for your factory owner, seems like they are being choosy.......

[Chelseafan]

1 hour ago, topt said:

Unfortunately, for your factory owner, seems like they are being choosy.......

 

Yes afraid so

 

 

Edited October 31, 2020 by Chelseafan

[sead]

Guess calling and threatening would work if those unemployed would get social benefits, or had unemployment insurances etc. Even Prayuth lied about helping those poor and unemployed and now he have the guts to call them lazy (even if they are). 

There's not much right going on in this country.