Phoenix Rising Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, xofswen said: But, "the United States continues to be the most popular destination for immigrants. Achieving the “American Dream” is still a major factor for many families, individuals, and entrepreneurs around the globe. As you may imagine, a better quality of life, increased job opportunities, and financial stability are some of the main reasons for immigrating to the U.S." US is still the number 1 preferred destination for migrants. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countries-migrants-want-to-move-to/ https://www.aantlaw.com/top-5-countries-highest-immigration-rates/ Could that possibly be due to devious Mexico's shameful refusal to pay for that big, beautiful wall making crossing into the US a walk in the park (well, desert)?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xofswen Posted November 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2020 23 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: Liberals? Come on. Have you seen the videos of Trump's supporters? Jobless and toothless for sure. Typical of alt right conservatives. Bash Liberals and the left, but give their side a pass on the same BS. I saw a video of a Biden rally in PA and there was people (less than 50) but unsure if they have teeth. But the 58,000 Trump supporters at the rally in PA a few days ago may or may not have ALL their teeth. But, never mind all that, really it don't matter as Trump leads in PA now and is on then glide path to re-election today. So do enjoy the evening watching your cognitive challenged loser Biden (who may have his teeth) lose the election while all the toothless winners celebrate another win (A HUGE win) for our President, Donald Trump! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 23 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: Liberals? Come on. Have you seen the videos of Trump's supporters? Jobless and toothless for sure. Typical of alt right conservatives. Bash Liberals and the left, but give their side a pass on the same BS. Oh dear. Anti-Trump supremacy at its finest! Of course poor, uneducated people's vote doesn't account for as much as entitled, rich people's.???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Oh dear. Anti-Trump supremacy at its finest! Of course poor, uneducated people's vote doesn't account for as much as entitled, rich people's.???? Yup. Anti Trump. But pro truth. Something Trump's supporters have forgot about. It's got nothing to do about rich vs. poor. It's about truth vs. lies.???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, xofswen said: I saw a video of a Biden rally in PA and there was people (less than 50) but unsure if they have teeth. But the 58,000 Trump supporters at the rally in PA a few days ago may or may not have ALL their teeth. But, never mind all that, really it don't matter as Trump leads in PA now and is on then glide path to re-election today. So do enjoy the evening watching your cognitive challenged loser Biden (who may have his teeth) lose the election while all the toothless winners celebrate another win (A HUGE win) for our President, Donald Trump! Did you see Trump's Tweet? Quote Votes cannot be cast after POLES are closed. He's not that smart. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xofswen Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Did you see Trump's Tweet? He's not that smart. 555, sorry I don't tweet, but I am watching your hero Biden' getting his butt handed to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Surelynot Posted November 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2020 Not looking good....Trump is going to win this.....???? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 It will come down to the mail-in ballots in PA, MI, and WI. Trump will try to get the courts to stop counting and will appeal every reversal. If it gets to the Supreme Court, they will vote for Trump 5 to 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xofswen Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Yup. Anti Trump. But pro truth. Something Trump's supporters have forgot about. It's got nothing to do about rich vs. poor. It's about truth vs. lies.???? You savior Biden never told a lie....HA HA HA! So, only non-liars should be Pres??!! That eliminates everyone except Jesus perhaps. But, I don't think he ever ran for office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 59 minutes ago, xofswen said: You savior Biden never told a lie....HA HA HA! So, only non-liars should be Pres??!! That eliminates everyone except Jesus perhaps. But, I don't think he ever ran for office. So you are OK with Trump, your idol, being a liar? Biden is not my man. Neither is Trump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Trump maybe ahead but the postal votes are still to be counted and they are most likely to swing the odds back to the democrats. That is why Trump is desperate to try and get those votes NOT counted! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jcsmith Posted November 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 hours ago, xofswen said: 555, sorry I don't tweet, but I am watching your hero Biden' getting his butt handed to him. You shouldn't count your chickens before they hatch... Especially before counting the cities and absentee ballots. If Biden holds on to Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada (all of which he is leading and trending upwards) then he's won. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, jcsmith said: You shouldn't count your chickens before they hatch... Especially before counting the cities and absentee ballots. If Biden holds on to Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada (all of which he is leading and trending upwards) then he's won. It's a real "nail biter" and too close to call. Looks like Trump will win Alaska, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina (though not certain, as some are close). But he will still need at least one of Nevada, Wisconsin, and Michigan to retain the presidency. However, those states are still looking likely Biden wins. This is very far from the "landslide" victory predicted by some Democrat supporters. As someone without a "horse" in the race, I am quite enjoying the contest. The Guardian has a good "live" update.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/nov/03/us-election-2020-live-results-donald-trump-joe-biden-who-won-presidential-republican-democrat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsmith Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, chickenslegs said: It's a real "nail biter" and too close to call. Looks like Trump will win Alaska, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina (though not certain, as some are close). But he will still need at least one of Nevada, Wisconsin, and Michigan to retain the presidency. However, those states are still looking likely Biden wins. This is very far from the "landslide" victory predicted by some Democrat supporters. For sure the GOP did a lot better than even their own polls predicted they would. They were expected to lose the senate and to lose the presidency by a wider margin. It looks like they will retain the senate and while I think Biden will win the presidency, it's going to be a lot closer than anticipated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, jcsmith said: For sure the GOP did a lot better than even their own polls predicted they would. They were expected to lose the senate and to lose the presidency by a wider margin. It looks like they will retain the senate and while I think Biden will win the presidency, it's going to be a lot closer than anticipated. In at least 4 of those unconfirmed states the difference between Trump and Biden is less than 1%. Do they allow candidates to demand re-counts in the US? (as they do in the UK). If so, I can see this going on for another few days. Gripping stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 7 hours ago, chickenslegs said: In at least 4 of those unconfirmed states the difference between Trump and Biden is less than 1%. Do they allow candidates to demand re-counts in the US? (as they do in the UK). If so, I can see this going on for another few days. Gripping stuff! Yes, but there may be costs. For instance, Trump has already requested a recount in Wisconsin, which he can do because the difference in vote between the candidates is < 1%, but it will cost him $3 million. If the difference had been < 0.25% the state of Wisconsin would have paid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted November 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, cmarshall said: Yes, but there may be costs. For instance, Trump has already requested a recount in Wisconsin, which he can do because the difference in vote between the candidates is < 1%, but it will cost him $3 million. If the difference had been < 0.25% the state of Wisconsin would have paid. Biden's up by a bit over 20k votes in Wisconsin. Recounts typically don't make changes that big. Fox has called AZ already. If Nevada goes blue, it's over. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Biden's up by a bit over 20k votes in Wisconsin. Recounts typically don't make changes that big. Fox has called AZ already. If Nevada goes blue, it's over. Nevada is heavily odds on Biden, as is Michigan and Arizona. Wisconsin was effectively called hours ago. Presidential betting markets suspended. Its all over bar the shouting. Trump will go down as the sorest LOSER ever.. Conformation, if anyone needed it that he is a classic manchild. Edited November 5, 2020 by polpott 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, polpott said: Nevada is heavily odds on Biden. Wisconsin was effectively called hours ago. Michigan heavily odds on Biden. Presidential betting markets suspended. Its all over bar the shouting. Trump will go down as the sorest LOSER ever.. Conformation, if anyone needed it that he is a classic manchild. Most media outlets have called Michigan. Fox has Biden at 264, they called AZ. Only Nevada left and the fat lady will start singing. What a crazy ride this election was, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Biden's up by a bit over 20k votes in Wisconsin. Recounts typically don't make changes that big. Fox has called AZ already. If Nevada goes blue, it's over. Presidential candidates don't normally have an army of 4000 lawyers at the ready on election day to challenge ballots in 50 states either. The Rs intend to use every possible means to disqualify ballots. Already several hundred thousand ballots have gone missing in the Post Office. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Jeffr2 said: Most media outlets have called Michigan. Fox has Biden at 264, they called AZ. Only Nevada left and the fat lady will start singing. What a crazy ride this election was, eh? With Americans having had 4 years experience of the Trump presidency, there is no excuses for having the wool pulled over their eyes. The election race has been way closer than it should have been. Clearly the US is far more racist than I ever thought it was 4 years ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, cmarshall said: Presidential candidates don't normally have an army of 4000 lawyers at the ready on election day to challenge ballots in 50 states either. The Rs intend to use every possible means to disqualify ballots. Already several hundred thousand ballots have gone missing in the Post Office. Any evidence of that. The irony being that the majority of postal votes would have been for Biden. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 If Trump can get some critical case to the Supreme Court he will win. Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barret were all part of Bush's legal team in Bush v. Gore in 2000 that led to the Court illegally stopping the recount in FL and handing the election to Bush, as we all know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, polpott said: With Americans having had 4 years experience of the Trump presidency, there is no excuses for having the wool pulled over their eyes. The election race has been way closer than it should have been. Clearly the US is far more racist than I ever thought it was 4 years ago. It's shaken my confidence in democracy. Shows the average citizen isn't smart enough to suss out the truth from the lies. As seen from the many troll posts here. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Jeffr2 said: It's shaken my confidence in democracy. Shows the average citizen isn't smart enough to suss out the truth from the lies. As seen from the many troll posts here. ???? Disagree. It shows that many voters want those lies to be true. Same with the troll posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, polpott said: Any evidence of that. The irony being that the majority of postal votes would have been for Biden. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/11/03/postal-service-blows-deadline-check-missing-mail-ballots/6149643002/ What irony is that? The implication is that Postmaster Louis DeJoy deep-sixed as many ballots as he could very much knowing that they were likely Biden votes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted November 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, cmarshall said: If Trump can get some critical case to the Supreme Court he will win. Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barret were all part of Bush's legal team in Bush v. Gore in 2000 that led to the Court illegally stopping the recount in FL and handing the election to Bush, as we all know. I've read about this. It takes time, each state is different, etc. The counts aren't that close, and everything's been done by the book, just like in previous years. Yes, he's got hundreds of lawyers at his disposal, including the corrupt AG Barr. It's going to be interesting to see what these crooks try to do. Luckily! No violence on election day. Whew. Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought this would happen in America. Crazy times, crazy people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, polpott said: Any evidence of that. The irony being that the majority of postal votes would have been for Biden. Pretty sure you misunderstood the post you quoted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: It's shaken my confidence in democracy. Shows the average citizen isn't smart enough to suss out the truth from the lies. As seen from the many troll posts here. ???? Evidently some of the districts that suffered most from Covid increased their vote margin for Trump this time. Lemmings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelaoffy Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 When the men in Philadelphia write constitution it was based on men of honor accepting the result and going peacefully! But there's a selfish madman in WH who won't go unless forced out. Probably physically ! What a sick Republic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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