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Pattaya: Norwegian aged 87 faces five years in jail for downloading child porn


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3 hours ago, mr mr said:

 so much wrong with this. wow. classifying child abuse as a taste is creepy.

 

even viewing pictures of children is child abuse. children were hurt even from him viewing pictures. as one other member pointed out a usb drive full of pics is pretty open and shut. simply put the filth down and be down with it. 

 

under enough control ? so its cool if we leave a murderer out of jail if they pinky swear not to kill again ? mannnnnnnnnn

 

do you have a child ? i would love to see a group of these guys live on your condo floor if you had a few kids running about.....

I also don't want to have any of those guys near me.

But let's for the sake of argument make up another example. You or me have a brother. He is a nice guy, does not hurt anybody. But at some stage we find out by accident that he has a "strange" taste. He never acted on it because he does not want to hurt anybody. But he still has that taste. And now? Should we hurt or kill him? What do you think?

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2 hours ago, Walter Travolta said:

I think you will find it is their choice, whether it's viewing photos or actually participating, its the worst crime out there AFAIC and all who get involved in this kind of thing should swing from a short rope. In my opinion, your view of this is vile, kids should be allowed to be kids. The fact that you are looking like you are making excuses for his behaviour is worrying too

What I wrote is that he has no choice about his desire. As far as I know there is no cure for that. The same like there is no cure if anybody is gay or lesbian. The big difference is obviously that if two adult gay or lesbian people do what they want that is ok. But is an adult person desires kids that is bad. Best we can hope is that that person with the "strange" taste does not act on it. As far as I know there is no cure for the desire.

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2 hours ago, GlassWayOverHalfFull said:

you sick horrible individual. you don't think child porn is produced to satisfy the cravings of people like this and you condone it.

Why am I sick?

I think everybody who produces those pictures or sells them or messes with kids should go to jail or should be executed.

And still that does not make all those existing pictures go away. And if one or thousand people look at an existing picture does not make a difference. If pictures are sold that makes a difference. But in this casem, if the story is correct, he downloaded them per BitTorrent - free.

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No personal attacks/remarks  please.

 

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13 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Some sick people about.

He deserves the maximum sentence, hopefully, as a deterrent to other sickos. 

Karma. "If you fly with the crows, you get shot with the crows"   It could'nt happen to a more deserving person.

 

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12 hours ago, mikebell said:

Why was he under surveillance?  What alerted so many different agencies to raid his condo? Even Pattaya Plod were on hand for another photo-op to suggest they are working.

Sometimes they become overconfident and like to talk about it to a person whom they think is a friend.....Bingo !

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12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems lots of people here would like to execute him right away.

 

Obviously what he did was wrong and bad. I think the main question should be: Did he "only" look at those pictures or did he have sex with children, maybe in Pattaya.

If he had sex with children then I join the execute him club. Because that is a lot worse than "just" looking at pictures.

if you look at child sex picture, then you are accomplice for this market place. And also, why someone want to see this kind of crazy pictures ?

What can't you understand there ?

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2 hours ago, smudger1951 said:

Who knows what this man has been involved in on the internet and what he did in Pattaya. CEOP operates with the RTP to uncover sex trafficking and child abuse across SEA. 

They are only one of several organisations doing this work.

 

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46 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Should we hurt or kill him?

yes. brother is simply a title given to the human performing the act. there should be zero tolerance worldwide towards child porn. 

 

first offence - put down like the vile piece of filth you are.

 

 in the future i hope we find a scientific method to eradicate this sort of thing from our species.  

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1 hour ago, blacksuitdandruff said:

Can we wait for the investigation and trial to conclude before we condemn and threaten him with violence please?  Thank you.

usb sticks found loaded with child porn. i will agree with the final trial and verdict needs to be handed down. 

 

but come on man. usb sticks loaded with child porn. 

 

that doesn't  happen by accident. like o here is some child porn pics. yep copy and paste to usb drive. silly me that was a mistake

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16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems lots of people here would like to execute him right away.

 

Obviously what he did was wrong and bad. I think the main question should be: Did he "only" look at those pictures or did he have sex with children, maybe in Pattaya.

If he had sex with children then I join the execute him club. Because that is a lot worse than "just" looking at pictures.

Looking or doing where children are concerned just as bad in my book. No trial or jury straight to execution.

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5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I also don't want to have any of those guys near me.

But let's for the sake of argument make up another example. You or me have a brother. He is a nice guy, does not hurt anybody. But at some stage we find out by accident that he has a "strange" taste. He never acted on it because he does not want to hurt anybody. But he still has that taste. And now? Should we hurt or kill him? What do you think?

No one should not hurt or kill him, however one has to recognise he is just as responsible as the actual abuser and should be held accountable. Treatments are available with varying degrees of success. Monitoring and ongoing therapy required

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23 hours ago, webfact said:

Pattaya: Norwegian aged 87 faces five years in jail for downloading child porn

While I don't condone his actions for one second, the government are quick to shut down Pornhub... why don't they use some of their time and shut down these pedophile sites which are so much more harmful.

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16 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:

In my opinion anyone who say, violently mugs an old lady just to steal her groceries is guilty of much more serious crime. Never having surfed porn of any type, I would hesitate to hang anyone just for looking, however distasteful the subject matter may be.

If he is paying for these images then he effectively promotes the production of them and this is an issue. He may not have acted further.... and at his advanced age it is surprising he retains the libido to do this. I agree about violent muggers who vicitimize the defenceless, it is also heinious and the criminals should be put where they can do no harm for a long time.

Society needs to protect its vulnerable.

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9 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

While I don't condone his actions for one second, the government are quick to shut down Pornhub... why don't they use some of their time and shut down these pedophile sites which are so much more harmful.

The main difference is that Pornhub is a commercial site that doesn't want to hide. They are happy if many people know them.The pedophile sites are hiding and changing like other not allowed sites. They are only known to people that look for such things. And if you close a site they simply open a new one. 

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15 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

While I don't condone his actions for one second, the government are quick to shut down Pornhub... why don't they use some of their time and shut down these pedophile sites which are so much more harmful.

I never searched for any of those sites. Are they easy to find and access? As far as I know: no.

 

BitTorrent is a technology which is used to share lots of files, not only this. It can't easily shut down and even if it would be shut down that wouldn't solve the problem.

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44 minutes ago, Benmart said:

Lots of experts, judges and executioners hereabouts. The man hasn't gone on trial and the mob has already passed judgement based on...a news article. Pathetic.

while a final trial and verdict needs to be decided he was caught red handed with usb drives full of child porn. special police don't just show up at your house randomly for things like this. 

 

pathetic they got all those police and wasted all that time for a news article.

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