THAI to auction off 34 aging aircraft

[Jaggg88]

Not exactly the best time to be offering aircraft for sale.????

[Freigeist365]

Please put me on the list of possible buyers for "stewardesses for sale", just in case anything like this comes into affect after you got rid of the airplanes...

[metisdead]

Some off topic posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

[Lacessit]

Convert them to water tankers, then they could be used to put out the forest fires during the smoke season. Oh wait, I'm being logical. Silly me, Thailand needs submarines.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, DaLa said:

Fortune favours the brave.

 

I'm off down Sukhumvit in an hour or so, I'm going to have a whip round at my local and then set one of the bar girls up running a new airline.

 

You'll all be sorry you missed the opportunity.

Can you combine with the sale of a bridge in Sydney Harbor? I'll manage the share float for you.

[lumply]

Twenty year old aircraft are by no means 'old' but there are more economical options other than four engined varieties.

The article opened with 800 planes..usual inaccurate aviation reporting

[DrPhibes]

2 hours ago, DaLa said:

Fortune favours the brave.

 

I'm off down Sukhumvit in an hour or so, I'm going to have a whip round at my local and then set one of the bar girls up running a new airline.

 

You'll all be sorry you missed the opportunity.

Can see it now, Areola Airlines.  About time someone one up'd Vietnam Airlines Bikini stew's

[Clarkey611]

Could the 34 be from this lot sitting at Suvarnabhumi on Sunday or are they all in U-Tapao?

[billd766]

4 hours ago, cracker1 said:

Is it possible to fit newer fuel efficient engines to some of these aircraft and get them back into use when business picks up ?

A fair idea but who will bear the cost of new engines? Thai can't afford it as they are in receivership and are basically bankrupt. Add to that perhaps 30 to 40% of the maintainance crews have accepted an early retirement package, and I have no idea of the aircrew status. Pilots need to put in a number of flying hours every month to keep their pilots licence current.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Thomas Hannah said:

Do you know how many 747 s are scrapped this year.I dont .but its all of them.A380 are going to freight.Apart from emerites.Nearly all them planes are scrappers.There are no new diners with planes.I dont think you know how many are scrapped every year.I dont.But its a lot.

From Wikipedia 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_recycling

 

Each year, 400 to 450 aircraft are scrapped and disassembled globally, for a $2 billion market for aircraft parts, and 12,500 aircraft will reach their end-of-life in the 20 years after 2009. Of those, around one third are parted out and disassembled by members of the AFRA.[1] The AFRA is an international non-profit association aiming to promote environmental best practices, regulatory excellence and sustainable developments in the fields of aircraft disassembly, as well as the salvaging and recycling aircraft parts and materials.

[Mike k]

3 hours ago, DaLa said:

Fortune favours the brave.

 

I'm off down Sukhumvit in an hour or so, I'm going to have a whip round at my local and then set one of the bar girls up running a new airline.

 

You'll all be sorry you missed the opportunity.

Hooker air lol 

[Reigntax]

7 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

if they left the seats in i could use one of these as a waiting room.

Would the entry be through the front or back door?

[Pravda]

6 hours ago, natway09 said:

They may get a few bucks for the newer 777's The rest are scrap value only

Can I have an A340 ? I will cut off the wings & make myself a home

 

You can't own land in Thailand ????

[Techno Viking]

4 minutes ago, Pravda said:

 

You can't own land in Thailand ????

his wife can

[soi3eddie]

12 hours ago, Shuya said:

TAT just anounced there are millions of Chinese who want to buy them and they will pay billions of dollars for each airplane. 

 

Surely it's not beyond the capabilities of ingenious Thai engineers to convert some of these planes to submarines therefore saving many more billions of Baht?

 

Edited November 6, 2020 by soi3eddie

[soi3eddie]

5 hours ago, Crusader said:

It will be interesting to see what does actually happen to these planes...

 

I think we can all guess that by now. The bids will never be high enough so nothing will happen!

[SomchaiCNX]

7 hours ago, khunPer said:

The only aircrafts of reasonable age – i.e. under 20 years – are those nobody wants, the Airbus 340s and a few of the Boeing 747-400s. As others have mentioned, the 20+ years Boeing 777s might be of interest for some, probably mainly converted to freighters.

I know a couple countries that would love to buy these aircraft to modernize their fleet ???? but than Uncle Sam will be very angry. Iran, North Korea ????

[SomchaiCNX]

6 hours ago, cracker1 said:

Is it possible to fit newer fuel efficient engines to some of these aircraft and get them back into use when business picks up ?

The engines cost more than the plane is worth.

 

[SomchaiCNX]

5 hours ago, tso310 said:

Very few a/c have gone to freighter conversion plus the time scale that these a/c will be available is off putting. Only 1 of the nearly 40 British B747s has gone for conversion (Virgin) and that was shown live on Bigjet.tv last week. As its was the last one to leave Heathrow, atc  let it taxi near to the camera. The last BA B747 did a low fly past.

I'm sure I saw some of those A300s are at DMK minus engines. I thought they had problems after DMK flooded last year.

TG has two 747 freighters parked in Utapao , correct me if I'm wrong.

 

 

Edited November 6, 2020 by SomchaiCNX

[SomchaiCNX]

38 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

 

I think we can all guess that by now. The bids will never be high enough so nothing will happen!

Think so to low = loss of face so no sale.

 

[Montnoveau]

6 hours ago, cracker1 said:

Is it possible to fit newer fuel efficient engines to some of these aircraft and get them back into use when business picks up ?

Technically possible, but somebody has to do the modification and testing, and then re-certify everything.

Not viable when you have many newer and efficient planes idling too...

[Montnoveau]

3 hours ago, phil2407 said:

As scrap value - does anyone know how much 1 of these cost? 

If engines are in good condition, you got maybe 3-4 million USD (pre-corona, less now) for A340, the problem is that A340's are a dying breed and the need for spares are quickly disappearing. 

[kevin612]

Who would invest for planes at this moment? COVID-19 is over, airports return to normal

[josephbloggs]

6 hours ago, Dustdevil said:

Nobody wants an A380, I can pretty much predict that.

Good job then that they are not trying to sell any.

[Susco]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

The aircraft include the Airbus A340-500 and A340-600, which were bought during the tenure of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra for service on the non-stop route between Thailand and the United States, which proved to be a financial flop, resulting in about seven billion baht in operational losses.

 

Wait a minute, can't we sue Thaksin for that?

[GinBoy2]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Good job then that they are not trying to sell any.

Well it's not if but when.

 

The rate of A380 retirements hasn't been helped by this whole nightmare. 

 

AF has already retired all their fleet. SQ retired another 7 this week, and LH in this weeks Q3 conference call, with usual German reticence said, 'that the A380 fleet was unlikely to return to service'.

 

Real airlines came to the conclusion a while ago that this as lovely piece of engineering that it is, just didn't make money and hence any commercial sense

 

TG on the other hand isn't a real commercial enterprise, so we'll see!

 

The hilarious story in the aviation world is that of the TG purchase, and Yes they bought them, not leased.

 

I forget which of the many TG CEO's it was, but when he came in he recognized that the A380 was not a good commercial fit for TG route structure.

But when he attempted to cancel the order discovered that the crack negotiating team had signed up for cancellation terms so onerous they had to take them.

 

That's why I said before, the A380's will go, but it's going to be a very very bitter face losing pill to swallow

[drgoon]

8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Convert them to water tankers, then they could be used to put out the forest fires during the smoke season. Oh wait, I'm being logical. Silly me, Thailand needs submarines.

Convert them to submarines

[drgoon]

7 hours ago, Reigntax said:

Would the entry be through the front or back door?

I'll happily take the Economy Class back door

[tso310]

10 hours ago, SomchaiCNX said:

TG has two 747 freighters parked in Utapao , correct me if I'm wrong.

 

 

Retired a few years ago but I came up with this news item

 https://cargofacts.com/allposts/business/strategy/another-747-400bcf-reactivated/

 

That aircraft (formerly HS-TGJ) is now flying with a Moldovan cargo carrier - Terra Avia since May 2020.

The other one HS-TGH is shown as at UTP. Both were converted from passenger a/c.

Edited November 6, 2020 by tso310

[hotchilli]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

with delivery available in the first or second quarter of 2021 on an "as-is, where-is" condition, according to the website.

I'd wager my last shirt these aircraft are due for major checks, bought as is .... is not a good start.