Misab Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Why are there so much smoke at the moment, we can hardly see the mountains, what are they burning and where? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Misab said: what are they burning and where? I guess its sugar cane but could be any other thing where ? everywhere, the "government" even has an app to help the farmers time the burnings correctly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoilSpoil Posted November 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2020 Sugar cane, farmers will smoke out the country the next 3 months. Hua Hin got very unhealthy smog levels last year, for months in a row. Government will do nothing about it. Farmers can do what they want. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 14 hours ago, SoilSpoil said: Sugar cane, farmers will smoke out the country the next 3 months. Hua Hin got very unhealthy smog levels last year, for months in a row. Government will do nothing about it. Farmers can do what they want. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nobodysfriend Posted November 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2020 It looks like the more people are complaining about the toxic emissions from crop burning , the more they burn . Mad . 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 the world is a very dirty place... sorry for your inconvenience 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tarteso Posted November 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) Soon Thailand (at least in the north) will be number one in the world in pollution levels at the smog season, like every year. And nothing will be done because Thais love to burn their land. Strange vice, strange people who choose destroy their lungs as preferred disease. Edited November 12, 2020 by Tarteso 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tarteso Posted November 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) On 11/10/2020 at 5:15 PM, Misab said: Why are there so much smoke at the moment, we can hardly see the mountains, what are they burning and where? The problem is not that you cannot see the mountains, the problem is that it is prohibitive to breathe that air. the military in power do NOTHING to prevent it. After 10 years living in Chiang Mai, I have contracted lung problems, which I try to alleviate by escaping to healthier places in times of smog... (Feb-mar-april) Edited November 12, 2020 by Tarteso 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ncc1701d Posted November 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2020 The only thing I know about sugar cane farming is that in Australia they stopped burning them down many years ago. Not sure why they can't do the same in Thailand. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tarteso said: The problem is not that you cannot see the mountains, the problem is that it is prohibitive to breathe that air. the military in power do NOTHING to prevent it. After 10 years living in Chiang Mai, I have contracted lung problems, which I try to alleviate by escaping to healthier places in times of smog. Me too I have COPD with less than 20 % lung capacity left and this is definitely not good for my lungs 1 minute ago, ncc1701d said: The only thing I know about sugar cane farming is that in Australia they stopped burning them down many years ago. Not sure why they can't do the same in Thailand. They can stop if they want to. Leaves and debris could be plow down in the field, of course they will need a real tractor. In a time where the world is fighting pollution don't burn it, it kills a lot of people each year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 3:55 PM, SoilSpoil said: Sugar cane, farmers will smoke out the country the next 3 months. Hua Hin got very unhealthy smog levels last year, for months in a row. Government will do nothing about it. Farmers can do what they want. Sad ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted November 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said: It looks like the more people are complaining about the toxic emissions from crop burning , the more they burn . Mad . Thainess 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted November 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2020 42 minutes ago, ncc1701d said: The only thing I know about sugar cane farming is that in Australia they stopped burning them down many years ago. Not sure why they can't do the same in Thailand. Because it is too labour intensive and costs more, even though the sugar cane companies pay them less for burnt sugar cane, they still keep up the practice, Thai's will burn anything, leaves, plastic, anything, it's as if they are doing it to warn off the spirits, idiots. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BusyB Posted November 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, Tarteso said: The problem is not that you cannot see the mountains, the problem is that it is prohibitive to breathe that air. the military in power do NOTHING to prevent it. After 10 years living in Chiang Mai, I have contracted lung problems, which I try to alleviate by escaping to healthier places in times of smog... (Feb-mar-april) That smog is why I decided that CM was not a potential place to settle. I remember seeing locals howking their lungs out on street corners. And after a trek in the mountains, coming back down the road in the jeep, as we hit the cauldron, literally from one breath to the next a transition between fresh air and smoke and fumes. That wasn't burning season by the way, that was the normal state of affairs December 2003. Never been back since which is such a shame because it's a lovely city in a lovely setting. I smoked for 30 years, haven't for the last 20-odd. I didn't give it up to do that to myself. But now Hua Hin? That was my seaside convalescence resort for retirement.???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: Because it is too labour intensive and costs more, even though the sugar cane companies pay them less for burnt sugar cane, they still keep up the practice, Thai's will burn anything, leaves, plastic, anything, it's as if they are doing it to warn off the spirits, idiots. Exactly I wish it were the sugar cane! These crazy people set fire to garbage, plastics, wood, dry grass, mountains and everything that burns ...SICKS Edited November 12, 2020 by Tarteso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpill17 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 5:15 PM, Misab said: Why are there so much smoke at the moment, we can hardly see the mountains, what are they burning and where? Wind is carrying it from Bangkok. Every year same-same, that's why I don't live in Hua Hin or anywhere in Central Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickmondo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 yes, there will be smog in HH from time to time, but nothing compared to up north its one of the perks of living in Asia!!! just wear 2 masks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspaltso Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 13 hours ago, BusyB said: That smog is why I decided that CM was not a potential place to settle. I remember seeing locals howking their lungs out on street corners. And after a trek in the mountains, coming back down the road in the jeep, as we hit the cauldron, literally from one breath to the next a transition between fresh air and smoke and fumes. That wasn't burning season by the way, that was the normal state of affairs December 2003. Never been back since which is such a shame because it's a lovely city in a lovely setting. I smoked for 30 years, haven't for the last 20-odd. I didn't give it up to do that to myself. But now Hua Hin? That was my seaside convalescence resort for retirement.???? I was in Prachuap Khiri Khan in November 2019, and air was quite smokey. I'm convinced some of it is due to local farmers, but more importantly the air that's being brought in from the east. Most of that dirty air actually originates in Cambodia, and Chantaburi, then blows across Chonburi( which has very unhealthy air in dry season), and then on over to His Hin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpill17 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, nickmondo said: yes, there will be smog in HH from time to time, but nothing compared to up north its one of the perks of living in Asia!!! just wear 2 masks Yes, even worse in the North. It used to be okay from May to December, but now air pollution in Chiang Mai is permanent. 2 masks LOL Edited November 13, 2020 by redpill17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpill17 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Aspaltso said: I was in Prachuap Khiri Khan in November 2019, and air was quite smokey. I'm convinced some of it is due to local farmers, but more importantly the air that's being brought in from the east. Most of that dirty air actually originates in Cambodia, and Chantaburi, then blows across Chonburi( which has very unhealthy air in dry season), and then on over to His Hin. I think it's carried all the way from Vietnam and China. Just look at this pic - not a lot of burning in Cambodia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy one Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 19 hours ago, ncc1701d said: The only thing I know about sugar cane farming is that in Australia they stopped burning them down many years ago. Not sure why they can't do the same in Thailand. Its cheaper to burn than dispose of the cast off waste. In Bundaberg Qld. they built an incinerator that takes all the sugar cane waste, its used to generate electricity for the plant In this country everyone wants a profit and no outlay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 12:11 PM, redpill17 said: I think it's carried all the way from Vietnam and China. Just look at this pic - not a lot of burning in Cambodia You can vcearly see burning activities on the left of Bangkok. Kanchanaburi and Sanglaburi are sugar cane provinces since the present government invested heavily in the ezport of sugar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpill17 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, SoilSpoil said: You can vcearly see burning activities on the left of Bangkok. Kanchanaburi and Sanglaburi are sugar cane provinces since the present government invested heavily in the ezport of sugar. Yes, well noted. I think the problem is all these sources are mixing together. Bangkok cloud of smog alone is nothing compared to Hanoi and Chengdu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) The https://aqicn.org/here numbers for Hua Hin Nov. 18 to Nov. 20 https://www.ventusky.com/ today 1:00 PM ***************** Edited November 20, 2020 by Yom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspaltso Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 12:11 PM, redpill17 said: I think it's carried all the way from Vietnam and China. Just look at this pic - not a lot of burning in Cambodia I think you're right in this instance. However once Cambodia's burning season gets started it affects Chonburi, and Prachuap strongly. Sling with all the <deleted> making its way from China, and Vietnam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Aspaltso said: I think you're right in this instance. However once Cambodia's burning season gets started it affects Chonburi, and Prachuap strongly. Sling with all the <deleted> making its way from China, and Vietnam. If you look at the burning around Hanoi, except for the eastern part of Thailand not much left when it reach mid Thailand. I live in Hua Hin area it looks like the smoke here come from west of Bangkok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinvictus Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 4:39 PM, ncc1701d said: The only thing I know about sugar cane farming is that in Australia they stopped burning them down many years ago. Not sure why they can't do the same in Thailand. This reminds me of a popular YouTuber Thai woman who married a Korean man.She posts several videos of her daily work and life there. Koreans have a very efficient and good set of methods for farming. I wonder if sometimes old habits are difficult to uproot here. I could be mistaken. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I have lived in CM 14 years. This year the burning here has started early and seems more than usual. I travel around the province often and this is the first time I have seen virtually every single rice field burnt or burning already. Soon it will be the mountains and forests. Every year those in power say they are 'cracking down' on the burning, but the last few years an outsider would be mistaken to believe they were actively encouraging it! It's not hard to simply get some police to drive around and fine each landowner that has had fires on their land. They would soon stop doing it. It's not like they have to worry about votes and being popular now. They would make a fortune from the fines. Seems like something bigger has more power and money involved to persuade the authorities to turn a blind eye. People are so scared of covid virus and taking all these precautions over it...but the general population seems not to see the pollution from the burning likely is far more dangerous to their health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felt 35 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, jak2002003 said: I have lived in CM 14 years. This year the burning here has started early and seems more than usual. I travel around the province often and this is the first time I have seen virtually every single rice field burnt or burning already. Soon it will be the mountains and forests. Every year those in power say they are 'cracking down' on the burning, but the last few years an outsider would be mistaken to believe they were actively encouraging it! It's not hard to simply get some police to drive around and fine each landowner that has had fires on their land. They would soon stop doing it. It's not like they have to worry about votes and being popular now. They would make a fortune from the fines. Seems like something bigger has more power and money involved to persuade the authorities to turn a blind eye. People are so scared of covid virus and taking all these precautions over it...but the general population seems not to see the pollution from the burning likely is far more dangerous to their health. The “silent killer”, smog kills 50,000 people in Thailand every year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 12:05 PM, Aspaltso said: I think you're right in this instance. However once Cambodia's burning season gets started it affects Chonburi, and Prachuap strongly. Sling with all the <deleted> making its way from China, and Vietnam. Bangkok was recently proclaimed to be the 3rd most polluted city in the world. I believe more people die from air pollution than from road accidents here. And Thailand definitely have it's part of burning. I think for Hua Hin get a lot from Kanchanaburi area. or north of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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