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I live in Thailand, am USA citizen, and married to a Thai. I will be 50 years old 10 days before my current marriage-based visa ends.

 

My wife and I are great friends, but not in love. She is going over seas for her business.

 

Do I have time to get a retirement visa? If I get it do I have to exit and re-enter Thailand to activate it?

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When your permission to stay expires 26 December, that's the very last day you can apply for the 1-year extension of stay.  And it requires that you would have evidence of funds seasoned on your perso

Is that 8 months this month or last month. If you did the 9th one the month and applied for a 60 day extension in December you could have 12 months in February to apply for the one year extension.

You would be applying for 12 month extension based on retirement. (not a visa). You do not need to exit/re-enter Thailand. You would require 800k in Thai bank in your name only 2 months prio

You would be applying for 12 month extension based on retirement. (not a visa).

You do not need to exit/re-enter Thailand.

You would require 800k in Thai bank in your name only 2 months prior to applying for extension.

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On 11/15/2020 at 4:06 PM, SailingHome said:

Can't I just show my Social Security statement of income and the direct deposits?

You would need to show at least 65k baht transferred into a Thai bank from abroad for 12 months to do the application. 

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1 minute ago, SailingHome said:

Can't I just show my Social Security statement of income and the direct deposits?

Believe the figure for that is 65,000 per month.  Different offices might have different time scales, ie 6 months records, 12 month records etc.  Your local office is your best bet for info' on that.

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40 minutes ago, SailingHome said:

I live in Thailand, am USA citizen, and married to a Thai. I will be 50 years old 10 days before my current marriage-based visa ends.

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In your case it is especially important to be sure that you used the correct terminology in your query  as it will affect the requirements you will have to meet when applying for the 1-year extension based on your Non Imm O Visa for which you want to apply for reason of retirement.

So the question is.  Are you currently on

a) a 90-day Non Imm O Visa issued for reason of marriage

b) a 1-year Multiple Entry Non Imm O marriage Visa

c) a 1-year permission to stay from your 1-year extension of stay based on a Non Imm O Visa for reason of marriage

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11 minutes ago, SailingHome said:

Anyone know Bangkok's rule? I only started direct deposit 8 months ago.

I read report of requiring 12 months of monthly deposits in your situation. That was upcountry. Don't know about CW.

I assume your aware that using money in bank method the 400k is only required to be in bank 2 months prior to application plus under consideration period. Then you can withdraw it as you want. Bullet proof.

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2 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

In my case 

c) a 1-year permission to stay from your 1-year extension of stay based on a Non Imm O Visa for reason of marriage

Extension ends 26 Dec.

 

Ubon Joe mentioned that my wife will have to come with me to ok it. 

 

Also note there is no way I can show 400k in the bank or borrow it. I maybe have 200k.

 

I'll have 8 direct deposits to one of the special Bangkok Bank accounts for such. Before that I was using ATM and having my USA bank transfer as needed through New York, but Thailand shut that down.

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1 hour ago, SailingHome said:

Extension ends 26 Dec.

 

Ubon Joe mentioned that my wife will have to come with me to ok it. 

 

Also note there is no way I can show 400k in the bank or borrow it. I maybe have 200k.

 

I'll have 8 direct deposits to one of the special Bangkok Bank accounts for such. Before that I was using ATM and having my USA bank transfer as needed through New York, but Thailand shut that down.

When your permission to stay expires 26 December, that's the very last day you can apply for the 1-year extension of stay.  And it requires that you would have evidence of funds seasoned on your personal Thai bank-account for at least two months at the moment of application.

Those funds would be 400K when applying for the 1-year extension for reason of marriage, and 800K when applying for reason of retirement.

Since you indicate that you did not have such amounts on your personal Thai bank-account since latest 26 October, your only option left is to  make use of a Fixer Agent that could take care of the financial requirement.  The fee for such fixer agent would be somewhere between 14.000 and 25.000 THB for a 1-year retirement extension application based on your current Non Imm O Visa.

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15 hours ago, SailingHome said:

Anyone know Bangkok's rule? I only started direct deposit 8 months ago.

Is that 8 months this month or last month. If you did the 9th one the month and applied for a 60 day extension in December you could have 12 months in February to apply for the one year extension.

 

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On 11/16/2020 at 8:21 AM, ubonjoe said:

Is that 8 months this month or last month. If you did the 9th one the month and applied for a 60 day extension in December you could have 12 months in February to apply for the one year extension.

 

8th will be 4 Dec.

 

Since we have done two one-year extensions on marriage, will the direct deposits let us extend on marriage then go retirement later? Again, not enough savings in any case. 

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10 hours ago, SailingHome said:

8th will be 4 Dec.

 

Since we have done two one-year extensions on marriage, will the direct deposits let us extend on marriage then go retirement later? Again, not enough savings in any case. 

If your 8th monthly income transfer will be 8 December, and your permission to stay expires 26 December you will NOT be able to meet the financial requirement using the same monthly income transfer method, even if you apply for the once-per-entry 60-day extension of stay to provide you with more time.  On top of that the +40K transfers would have to be transferred in each of the 12 months preceding your application, so if you missed out on one or more months midway, you won't be able to meet the requirements anyway.

Furthermore it is not even sure that you would be able to use the 400K Funds-in-Bank method, even when you apply for the 60-day extension of stay and use that time to season the funds for 2 months. The reason being, that when you apply again for the 1-year extension of your current permission to stay, that the Imm Officer will FIRST check whether you did meet the conditions for that 1-year permission to stay till 26 December that was granted to you.

And that will not be the case.  But having seasoned 400K for two months at moment of application, you would have met the requirement when using the Funds-in-Bank method.

It would therefore depend on the interpretation of the Imm Officer whether he would be OK with you not having met the conditions for the monthly income transfer method during the past 12 months, and accept the two-month seasoned 400K Funds-in-Bank method.

 

But since you wrote that you don't have the funds and thus won't be able to season the 400K for two months (even if you still have time to do so when combining it with a 60-day extension), it looks that a Fixer Agent is your only option left.

The fee for such fixer agent would be somewhere between 14.000 and 25.000 THB for a 1-year retirement extension application based on your current Non Imm O Visa.

If you are not over 50 years of age, it would have to be a 1-year marriage extension application, but the fee for such service is significantly higher (as the marriage extension requires divisional approval, and thus involves two 'brown envelopes' to overlook that you do not meet the financial requirements).

 

 

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