Popular Post chilli42 2,021 Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 14 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: The Thai tourist industry was in decline long before the covid issue began. In addition to the expensive Baht, Thailand is simply not interesting anymore. When was the last time anyone bragged about having been to Thailand, like 2005? Does this have anything to do with the country be closed to tourism? Your pronouncement is no doubt a wise one. It just seems to have a very tangential relationship with the topic. Maybe save this gem for a topic where it has more relevance 3 Link to post Share on other sites
hotchilli 16,425 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said: Then the govt's "50/50" program was a nice gesture, but guess who had to put in that 50%? Hehe. Even with Prayut footing 50%, they still didn't have much to scrape together. Only the civil servants are benefiting from the 50/50, they have the monthly guaranteed salary to spend and the "extra holidays" given. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
vandeventer 845 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Something has to give! Get some good vaccines and open this place up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post AmySeeker 298 Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, meechai said: Well you could be right about C19 regulations continuing but as far as not seeing anything change? I tell you what ...change is quickly approaching & it is not going to be pretty. Desperation/poverty does not happen silently or without major changes occurring in day to day life Disagree. People in Thailand are more scared of the virus than a short term downturn of the economy. During lockdown I remember sensing the fear in the eyes when foreigners would approach them, that xenophobia fear was running rife. Thailand is living in bliss at the moment without covid. They honestly don't know how lucky they are. Go see the images and horrors in Europe, who chose to go down the path of opening up. I don't even fathom how you intend they just open up? What will happen, as is happening in Europe, is that the virus will run rife, there will be mass hospitalisations, loved ones being lost - at which point the government will put into action a new lockdown and close everything down. However, this time they may not be so lucky and eradicate the virus. In turn there will be no tourists turning up. What they have now, is a domestic economy tickling along. No lockdown, and for those stuck in Thailand now they are safe from the virus and free to enjoy the country. I really detest with a passion those who just say 'they should open up' and get on with it. They usually mention Sweden alot too. The same Sweden that in the last few days has announced lockdowns - guess their much lauded herd immunity experiment failed. Edited November 19, 2020 by AmySeeker 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Bluetongue 1,218 Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, AmySeeker said: Disagree. People in Thailand are more scared of the virus than a short term downturn of the economy. During lockdown I remember sensing the fear in the eyes when foreigners would approach them, that xenophobia fear was running rife. Thailand is living in bliss at the moment without covid. They honestly don't know how lucky they are. Go see the images and horrors in Europe, who chose to go down the path of opening up. I don't even fathom how you intend they just open up? What will happen, as is happening in Europe, is that the virus will run rife, there will be mass hospitalisations, loved ones being lost - at which point the government will put into action a new lockdown and close everything down. However, this time they may not be so lucky and eradicate the virus. In turn there will be no tourists turning up. What they have now, is a domestic economy tickling along. No lockdown, and for those stuck in Thailand now they are safe from the virus and free to enjoy the country. I really detest with a passion those who just say 'they should open up' and get on with it. They usually mention Sweden alot too. The same Sweden that in the last few days has announced lockdowns - guess their much lauded herd immunity experiment failed. Much of what you say has many large elements of truth in it. However you have chosen to use language of extreme fear to get your point across. It is exactly this sort of attitude that isn't helping. Images and horrors of Europe, really? The statistics are very bad, people are dying, not as many as before, but my first thought of the horrors of Europe is the holocaust, I haven't seen those images. I never once saw fear in people's eyes during the first lockdown here and I'm thankful that they have handled phase 1 so well. But they do need to have an intelligent well thought out plan to reopen, including whatever safeguards they can. People exacerbating the fear for here are making the recovery worse here and in every country where there has been a good handle on managing the virus. IMO. 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Techno Viking 1,293 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Only the civil servants are benefiting from the 50/50, they have the monthly guaranteed salary to spend and the "extra holidays" given. I benefited from the 50/50, My wife booked the hotel. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Peterphuket 600 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 hours ago, kcpattaya said: Nah... This government has other priorities. This That one is for sightseeing in the Caribbean I suppose, you can't win a war with that. Link to post Share on other sites
johnarth 439 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 yes get rid of the general and the baht will fall because the Chinese government will not back it up, they are expecting big things from the general and lots of money Link to post Share on other sites
metisdead 8,863 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 An off topic post has been reported and removed. Link to post Share on other sites
rocketdave 173 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 For the Thai tourist industry, or any country's come to that, to expand back to pre covid levels people's incomes will have to return to pre covid levels. Many people are facing hardship through job loss. The last thing on your mind when you can't pay your bills is not holidays! End of 2021 or more like late in 2022 might see some recovery. Link to post Share on other sites
high plane drifter 130 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 visa situation is not very friendly for any farang 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Sean60 183 Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 A cry to deaf ears. This government dose not care about people. They have now the means to control every citizen. The will not do anything constructive to reopen the borders. The will not support the business owners in any way. It is time for them to disappear from the power. Inaddition the people should confiscate all their assets domestically and outside the country. This incompetent government members should have nothing. make them poor. 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Bluedan 382 Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, seajae said: It is a hard time for businesses but putting money before peoples lives is not the answer, until covid is totally under control around the world travel bans need to be enforced and the govt needs to help effected businesses/people more than they are, buying subs etc when the country is desperate is not good govt policy. Is it really money before lives? Or lives v lives? The average age of covid deaths is over 80 in most countries. Yes every life lost is a tragedy. So how about years of life lost through: poverty, malnutrition, unemployment, violence, domestic violence, suicide, undiagnosed or untreated cancers and other diseases. These things will mean many years of lives lost with the victims on average being much younger than the 80 plus folks who are not only susceptible to COVID but also other contagions such as flu or bacteria. Edited November 19, 2020 by Bluedan 5 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
metisdead 8,863 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 A post containing false trolling information has been removed as well as the replies. Link to post Share on other sites
Ireland32 2,137 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 When hotels accomplish getting phd ‘s in Epidemiology then Il listen this is pure Greed 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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