Hotel operators beg govt to consider reopening Thailand soon

[Ireland32 2,152]

48 minutes ago, Bluedan said:

Is it really money before lives? Or lives v lives? The average age of covid deaths is over 80 in most countries. Yes every life lost is a tragedy. So how about years of life lost through: poverty, malnutrition, unemployment, violence, domestic violence, suicide, undiagnosed or untreated cancers and other diseases. These things will mean many years of lives lost with the victims on average being much younger than the 80 plus folks who are not only susceptible to COVID but also other contagions such as flu or bacteria.

Get off the baht bus it’s not that bad , Thais are Resilient 

[Lacessit 22,877]

3 hours ago, diks said:

There is absolutely no scientific evidence for it being Covid related. The reports of long term problems are just jibber jabber on social media. Manyy viruses can have the same effect. Mental health in the current situation is likely a much bigger harbinger of it, with the psychology of fear breading anxiety and depression.

I beg to differ, my son knows several friends his age who have had months of rehabilitation after contracting COVID-19.

The virus has a strong affinity for lung tissue, it's like a non-smoker suddenly acquiring a 2-pack a day habit, with a corresponding decrease in lung capacity.

[Bluedan 382]

6 minutes ago, Ireland32 said:

Get off the baht bus it’s not that bad , Thais are Resilient 

Baht bus ? Ok you tell that to the ones who lost their jobs or families of those who committed suicide (22% up this year) domestic violence also way up. The economy is lives also. 

[JimmyJ 1,971]

10 hours ago, greenhornfarang said:

If there were debilitating effects then people would not be forgetting, those I know who tested positive either experienced no symptoms or just had a regular flu, one in his 40s one in his 30s neither athletic. 

The case of the 2 people you know are statistically insignificant.

And irrelevant to any serious discussion of Covid's long term effects.

Edited November 19, 2020 by JimmyJ

[berrec 460]

Send China the bill for all related losses...................

[Time to grow 298]

16 hours ago, greenhornfarang said:

Yes but more people will die of poverty/starvation/depression/suicide from these measures than from covid.

 

Especially if they continue to believe that this is just a temporary slowdown.

[mr_lob 580]

The Prayut and co fat cats don't own any tourism related businesses, so they have no interest in opening!

[natway09 5,084]

This representitive of the "tourist industry" is pleading for the impossible.

Whilst no body could have forseen this pandemic the tourist industry in Thailand has in many ways shot themselves in the foot 15 years ago. Massive expansion far too quickly for greed only resulted in mass tourism with in many cases value for money just too good to believe.

Far lesser accommodations in developed countries selling for 3 to 5 times as much resulting in

developers here not having any nest egg or reserves but hell bent on developing another property

without any Government control on oversupply (same in the condo market)

I feel for the staff more than the big Companies.

Incidently I am directly affected with my business turnover decreasing since reopening after nearly 4 months closed by 78%,

But if you take a self reality check & have a good look at UK, USA, Europe, Indonesia India

& even Malaysia you must admit that the Thai Government have made the right moves to protect their people & us long term residents. 

Even right now you can not open the country to the countries above & (or) many others.

It would just set the health of the nation into chaos

 

[P100 419]

15 hours ago, greenhornfarang said:

 

IDK what you are talking about but I brag about being the last farang to experience the wonder of the world Walking Street, every day. I first visited Thailand in November 2019, it blew my greenhorn farang mind so much so,  that I decided to return immediately in February 2020, and I could not have been happier with my decision as I had a feeling that this may be the last time anyone will ever experience Thailand at its peak. 

Wasn't the peak when you returned.You have seen it slowly dying, a process of at least  10 years already (military coup and General Prayuth's military hunta government)  but you believed it was Thailand at is peak.

[wolf81 394]

14 hours ago, AmySeeker said:

Yeah open up, what's the worst that can happen. Oh wait, there's a pandemic that is destroying millions of lives around the world. 

 

Seriously why is this even been reported on ?

Perhaps because the way the COVID situation is handles is destroying millions of lives in Thailand due to people losing their businesses, jobs and not being able to pay their debts or costs of living?

[Walter Travolta 1,256]

9 hours ago, Dukeleto said:

Instead of begging why don’t they all get together and completely shutter All their hotels and lay off all staff. Can you imagine no hotels open in Bangkok??? That will get their attention and put the reality of what they are doing home to roost.

Yeah that'll show Prayut 

No welfare to fork out and unemployed people are hardly going to put up an argument for an industry they are no longer involved in!!

I believe the terminology for what you are suggesting is "Shooting yourself in the foot" or maybe "Cutting your nose off to spite your face"

[3NUMBAS 1,751]

tourism will only be a trickle for decades as the high point has gone for good .airlines wont be able to cope

[Walter Travolta 1,256]

9 hours ago, charmonman said:

Just have a look at reports of hospital systems being overwhelmed in many parts of the US and you might change your mind. Those you know ... how about those other people know? Unless you personally know someone who has died or suffered long term then it doesn't exist?

Personal situations are not relevant. 1.5m people have died. So many less have died from Covid without underlying issues. From any death whether it be covid or anything else, it is only relevant to the people who knew the deceased. For example, there will be someone dying as I type this comment, does it affect me or you? No. 

Just because you might know someone who has died from Covid doesnt make it any more, or less serious. They are just numbers and usually used as scare tactics by the media. 

Its nonsense that the world has closed for a pandemic (no more dangerous than the flu) with a death rate of 0.05% or thereabouts

[Walter Travolta 1,256]

8 hours ago, wombat said:

 

Nature is having a cull...Your DNA may not be required for the future...only fools and horses think they can control nature.

So what bracket do you put Bill Gates and all the other cronies in? Fools or horses?

[vermin on arrival 1,461]

6 hours ago, AmySeeker said:

 

I really detest with a passion those who just say 'they should open up' and get on with it. They usually mention Sweden alot too. The same Sweden that in the last few days has announced lockdowns - guess their much lauded herd immunity experiment failed. 

 

That is interesting news on Sweden. Thanks for pointing that out. I am surprised by this. A short while ago, while positive test were high, the mortality and hospitalization figures were still quite good. I haven't followed too closely lately. I see at the start of the month these have moved up a bit. The lockdown seems to be a soft one.