EU leaders deadlocked over recovery plan after Hungary, Poland veto

[luckyluke 4,343]

32 minutes ago, vogie said:

But due to covid many of the local business have closed and he thinks that more people will have some extra time on their hands and Rushi Sunak may pay for them all to play golf.

British humour I assume. 

 

[welovesundaysatspace 8,141]

2 hours ago, vogie said:

And here is where your analogy falls flat on its face. We joined a golf club and over a period of time this so called club began surruptiously changing into a rugby club, but hey the comittee wasn't happy with that arrangement, they also wanted some members to pay for other members fees. Now if somebody had explained that some members pay and others get to play for free, you wouldn't have believed have them now would you and you certainly wouldn't have joined this 'democratic' club would you.

It might surprise you, but yes, clubs sometimes change. 

 

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And then one brave member decided to say enough is enough, I shall open my own golf club just a mile down the road, and what do you think that happened when he applied for planning permission,

A “planning permission”? Again, you’re failing at analogies. 
 

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that's correct, the nasty golf club said you can open your own golf club, but you cannot take in any new members without us screening them first, you can only open from 12 noon to 1500 hrs and we have the right to all your land to take as many lost golf balls as we find, you will be allowed 2 lost balls a day, and you must follow our golf club rules.

It’s called freedom of contract. One of the achievements of our western democracies. 
 

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Ring a bell?

Yes. You’re in the wrong thread. 

Edited November 22, 2020 by welovesundaysatspace

[vogie 24,462]

4 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

It might surprise you, but yes, clubs sometimes change. 

 

It may surprise you but not one golf club I've ever been a member of has ever changed it to another sport. It is not so much of a change than a complete metamorphosis, it has changed from Gleneagles into something resembling Frankenstein.

[pacovl46 1,836]

9 hours ago, transam said:

Tell me how you know the UK is a sinking ship..?

It’s been sinking ever since they declared war on Germany in 1939. The UK is a mere shadow of its former self. Lots of companies will relocate to EU countries to stay competitive, which will result in heavy tax losses for the UK and quite a bit of an unemployment financial burden. 50 major banks are already preparing to relocate to Frankfurt which will result in a loss of 800 billion Euro for the UK as well. Life will become more expensive in an already expensive country and we all know what happens when people aren’t happy in the UK. There will be lots of thrown in shop windows, burning cars and battles with the cops. Scotland might split off. So....

 

 

[7by7 14,254]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Did anyone vote for them?

 Yes.

 

The president of the European Parliament is elected by MEPs. MEPs are elected by voters in the constituencies they represent.

 

The appointment of the president of the European Commission is complicated (see here); but ultimately their appointment must be approved by the European Parliament.

 

The president of the European Council is appointed by the Council itself; which is comprised of the heads of all member states.

 

[ivor bigun 4,012]

13 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

It’s been sinking ever since they declared war on Germany in 1939. The UK is a mere shadow of its former self. Lots of companies will relocate to EU countries to stay competitive, which will result in heavy tax losses for the UK and quite a bit of an unemployment financial burden. 50 major banks are already preparing to relocate to Frankfurt which will result in a loss of 800 billion Euro for the UK as well. Life will become more expensive in an already expensive country and we all know what happens when people aren’t happy in the UK. There will be lots of thrown in shop windows, burning cars and battles with the cops. Scotland might split off. So....

 

 

THEN YOU WOKE UP.

[7by7 14,254]

2 hours ago, transam said:

1. That is what you would think as you are an anti-British Brit.

2. You are a Scottish Nationalist.....

3. I am off up the pub.....

1)

Anyone who doesn't agree with you is in your book an "anti-British Brit!'

 

2) @Rookiescot is hiding that he's a Scottish nationalist (note small 'n'?! So you must think his avatar and all his posts in favour of Scottish independence are some form of cunning plan worthy of Baldrick!

 

 

[candide 11,356]

5 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

And who decides the criteria for what constitutes an acceptable democracy? You? The non elected EU appointed bureaucrats? Or the democratically elected governments of a sovereign nation representing the wishes of the people who elected them?

 

Maybe change the name to the European Union of Democratic Nations? Should fit right in with others who like to add the word democratic in their title.

These criteria are not particularly extravagant and are overwhelmingly recognised, I.e. in UK. You know, such as freedom of the Media or independence of the Judiciary.....

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[7by7 14,254]

2 hours ago, vogie said:

He has no choice Luke, the member knows that if he doesn't agree to the nasty golf clubs rules they will object to the planning permission, but little do they know that he has an ace up is sleeve.

 

 So what 'planning permission' does the UK need and how can the EU object, let alone block, it?

[7by7 14,254]

27 minutes ago, vogie said:

It may surprise you but not one golf club I've ever been a member of has ever changed it to another sport. It is not so much of a change than a complete metamorphosis, it has changed from Gleneagles into something resembling Frankenstein.

 But how many of these clubs have allowed an ex member who no longer pays their subscription to use all the same facilities as the paying members?

[RayC 1,919]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Spades. HTH

So our 'secret weapon' is to play Barnier a track by a heavy metal band? Well, it is an improvement on previous plans!

[scammed 1,765]

i dont think subsidies should be thrown around,

some nations act more irresponsible then others.

sweden didnt shut down their economy so they wont

be needing any handouts, others did and will be wanting handouts from sweden

[welovesundaysatspace 8,141]

7 minutes ago, vogie said:

It may surprise you but not one golf club I've ever been a member of has ever changed it to another sport.

Unfortunately your personal experience with clubs is as irrelevant as the fact that I’ve never seen a mole rat. 

[vogie 24,462]

4 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Unfortunately your personal experience with clubs is as irrelevant as the fact that I’ve never seen a mole rat. 

There was just one time when I was teeing off on the 12th at Turnberry and I was hit on the back of the head with a rugby ball. 

Which still doesn't alter the fact that for 4 years you have been preaching to us that the EU is democratic and needs all 27 nations to vote something through, now it seems only Germany and France will do.

[welovesundaysatspace 8,141]

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

Which still doesn't alter the fact that for 4 years you have been preaching to us that the EU is democratic and needs all 27 nations to vote something through

Yes, I’ve been educating you. 
 

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

now it seems only Germany and France will do.

Do you actually read a topic before making a fool of yourself? Two countries have vetoed the budget. Even the headline says it:

 

EU leaders deadlocked over recovery plan after Hungary, Poland veto