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On 11/21/2020 at 2:29 AM, ChouDoufu said:

 

the entire line through the cities will be elevated, most likely through the countryside as well, no crossings, no possibility for noodle carts or wayward buffalo to wander onto the tracks.

 

expect to see something like this for the full route, except for the few km where it dives underground at the airports.

 

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https://www.globalconstructionreview.com/sectors/why-china-can-build-high-speed-rail34socheaply7365/

The danger will be if they try to do it on the cheap and use embankments instead of the above. We have all seen what happens on expressways without pedestrian overpasses- the locals just cross the road.

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Don't worry, it will be perfectly safe, the technology is Chinese

Exactly what they used to say about the BTS, used to sit around Soi 7 beer bar in the late 90s , all the usual experts telling you how it couldn't be done --and then when it was, telling you how no on

Jesus ,they already have way too many accidents with the current trains travelling at 50 kmph.

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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The danger will be if they try to do it on the cheap and use embankments instead of the above. We have all seen what happens on expressways without pedestrian overpasses- the locals just cross the road.

 

the chinese are going to build it.  chinese planners, chinese engineers, thai labor.

 

"be happy in your work!"

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On 11/20/2020 at 4:28 PM, sanuk711 said:

Exactly what they used to say about the BTS, used to sit around Soi 7 beer bar in the late 90s , all the usual experts telling you how it couldn't be done --and then when it was, telling you how no one would use it. Last time I was in BKK had a job to even get on it --so packed out.

 

Yep lets all have a good laugh at the Thai's maybe one day British rail might catch up with them.

It was mostly Brits that supervised the building of the BTS and MRT mate. Sorry to break it to you.

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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Are the Thais not going to pay for it? He who pays the piper chooses the tune.

 

he who pays the piper merely listens to the tune.

 

he doesn't play the pipe.

he doesn't know the notes.

he certainly doesn't mine the ore, smelt the alloys, or craft the pipe.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

It was mostly Brits that supervised the building of the BTS and MRT mate. Sorry to break it to you.

Do you want to supply a link to that Mr Meeseeks? One that shows Wikipedia (and everyone else) is wrong when they say that  Seamens Mobility  Munich & Italian Thai Development built it.

 

Siemens, the supplier of the railway technology, and the Thai contractor, Italian Thai Development, built the system for BTSC. The "Skytrain" name ---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTS_Skytrain

 

You know Siemens --the Germans, who with the Swedes are comming over to build the British railway link from London to Birmingham.....(if the Brit Government every gets round to actually doing it)

 

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12 hours ago, sanuk711 said:

Do you want to supply a link to that Mr Meeseeks? One that shows Wikipedia (and everyone else) is wrong when they say that  Seamens Mobility  Munich & Italian Thai Development built it.

 

Siemens, the supplier of the railway technology, and the Thai contractor, Italian Thai Development, built the system for BTSC. The "Skytrain" name ---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTS_Skytrain

 

You know Siemens --the Germans, who with the Swedes are comming over to build the British railway link from London to Birmingham.....(if the Brit Government every gets round to actually doing it)

 

The Italian might have made some fancy drawings on a piece of paper and yes, Thai muscle have mixed and poured the concrete,  but we all know that Crossy have laid every single cable and wire that keeps the BTS running and he is as British as the Queen herself!

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On 11/20/2020 at 11:16 AM, sanuk711 said:

Lets talk about the completely British projects (not ones that they were helped out with)---So how is that Hi speed rail to Birmingham...................:w00t:

So you know a lot about the Channel Tunnel Rail Link (CTRL) project or HS1 as it is referred to these days do you?  Obviously not!

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2 hours ago, Trip Hop said:

So you know a lot about the Channel Tunnel Rail Link (CTRL) project or HS1 as it is referred to these days do you?  Obviously not!

Please look Trip top----that's what that reply is in reference too. What Engineering feats have been lately by the UK without help...You are getting the Germans to build your rail link to Birmingham aren't you.?

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55 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

Please look Trip top----that's what that reply is in reference too. What Engineering feats have been lately by the UK without help...You are getting the Germans to build your rail link to Birmingham aren't you.?

Well as an engineer who spent 2.5 years on CTRL Contract 330 and 18 months on CTRL Contract 570 (the track laying itself), including the fit out of the 3.2Km North Down's Tunnel (one of the largest in Europe at the time), I think I know a little bit more about who I was dealing with than you do?  The Design Consortium consisted of 2 UK firms, 1 American & 1 French, with Ove Arup, a UK consultancy as design lead.  The rest were rarely involved.  On Phase 1 from Folkestone to Fawkham Junction, from recollection all the companies involved with the exception of Hochtief and Vinci were UK based.  Even the companies that weren't UK based used UK sourced engineers and labour with the exception of some key staff.  Before that I was an engineer on the earthworks, infrastructure, runway and taxi ways at Hong Kong Airport.  The company was UK based Alfred McAlpine.  So quite simply sir, you are talking out of your proverbial!

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