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The sad state of Thai labour in the countryside


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1 hour ago, bodga said:

Forward their names and numbers to me there is a  vacancy December the 1st you can PM me .............IM NOT  joking......just incase  anyone misconstrues  this as some seem to have with my charging them rent of 14  k on a bamboo  house and 500 baht for a litre of water

Where are you my nephew is 24 wants a job hes a good worker im not joking either

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So  have had my land now for 8  years, staff were easy to find way back then, generally  Burmese, Thais dont want to do  this work on the land. Ive noticed in the last 4-5  years more and more fi

No. They all want to work in Global or Homepro so they can sit on their asses all day taking selfies and playing Facebook.   If they have no work, they are not embarrassed just to beg p

The OP is spot on and I raised this in another post quite recently when they were talking about people who had lost their jobs due to Covid and didn't have money to feed themselves. For 20 years I hav

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On 11/21/2020 at 7:32 PM, hotchilli said:

Sorry to hear that, a sign of the times.

Don't drive yourself into the ground, sell up if you must to keep your sanity, buy a nice place in a great location and thank yourself for being able to do so.

Watch the sunrise/sunset over a beach somewhere quiet... 

 

that's about right.   for any of us that have enough money to get by it just isn't worth the stress as one gets older.    I certainly will never live in a condo..... but i have downsized to where i have things to take care of but seldom need to hire someone.  

I have a few guys who i can count on ( electrician, concrete guy )  when needed (rarely).

Pay them well...... by the job .     Good day labor is a thing of the past

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8 hours ago, 473geo said:

Just making a point, I recall building sites when Phuket first started to grow, workers lived in corrugated tin huts made with whatever was available, cooked on fires.

Working life for many Thai is about cash in hand, to spend as they wish, not 'benefits'

They know the salary before they start, if  its  not  enough for them they shouldnt  apply, we  also give increases when they start  at 3 and 6  months then yearly. I  know what they  can live in but i try not to treat them as pieces of <deleted> even though thats how  many treat us.

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57 minutes ago, bodga said:

They know the salary before they start, if  its  not  enough for them they shouldnt  apply, we  also give increases when they start  at 3 and 6  months then yearly. I  know what they  can live in but i try not to treat them as pieces of <deleted> even though thats how  many treat us.

You miss the point you pay the wage, they decide how they live, and what they do with the salary.

I bought my daughter an expensive shirt, 'expensive' she said,  yep says I but a very good shirt last a long time. One shirt I cannot wear same every time she says, better buy 3 cheap shirt can wear different every day

 

That is how I learnt not to spend money for my family or workers, better they spend it their way

 

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6 hours ago, 473geo said:

You miss the point you pay the wage, they decide how they live, and what they do with the salary.

I dont  miss  it  at  all, the house is  free, electric free, water free,  fish free,  motorbike free,the salary they can do what they want with, they never  manage to save any, if they want to  live offsite thats fine by me, they know the salary so up to them.

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1 hour ago, IsaanAussie said:

For those who would like to know more on the financial side of rice farming, the link below was produced a few years ago and provides a guide. It is a complex picture which should be understood in context of this topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPoacysvVQI 

 

One really should not have anything to do with the other. What you have to pay your staff does not have any direct effect on what you are able to sell your product for.

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5 hours ago, bodga said:

I dont  miss  it  at  all, the house is  free, electric free, water free,  fish free,  motorbike free,the salary they can do what they want with, they never  manage to save any, if they want to  live offsite thats fine by me, they know the salary so up to them.

My son gets paid 70 -100 baht an hour to help tend the cattle, negotiable with his mother 🙂 can go play football whenever he wants, even allowed a time off for school, receives all the benefits you mention above plus an annual 'bonus' on his birthday 😂

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3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

One really should not have anything to do with the other. What you have to pay your staff does not have any direct effect on what you are able to sell your product for.

We are talking about farming labor in small villages, ain't we? What is paid as wages to other members of the village is effected by the going rate of rice. In the case of family members often there is little, even no cash involved. 

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9 hours ago, OOTAI said:

So the frustration with the efforts of some Thai labour is not only felt by "Farangs" it is also seen by Thai's themselves.

several friends we know round here say the same, Thais are lazy  now, their words.

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Just now, bodga said:

already  told  workers here they can have a percentage of  profits, 40%

Really? And you think they believed you? 5555555555555

When was the last time the "overdue" harvester or tractor turned when promised? 

Guys it doesn't work that way, never has.

The exception used to be rubber tappers. The plantation owner supplied all materials and the tappers cared for the trees and land, spread fertiliser and harvested the rubber. Sales income was split on a percentage basis. It worked when prices were high and a good income was to be had. Now, same as rice hard to find people prepared to work for nothing.

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59 minutes ago, IsaanAussie said:

Really? And you think they believed you? 5555555555555

When was the last time the "overdue" harvester or tractor turned when promised? 

Guys it doesn't work that way, never has.

The exception used to be rubber tappers. The plantation owner supplied all materials and the tappers cared for the trees and land, spread fertiliser and harvested the rubber. Sales income was split on a percentage basis. It worked when prices were high and a good income was to be had. Now, same as rice hard to find people prepared to work for nothing.

 

So which is it? Here you claim it doesn't work that way and a couple post back you implied it did.

 

If the bottom falls out of the rice market (subsidies aside) the rice rots in the field as no one can afford to pay people to harvest it. If the market price double or triples, the worker is still paid only whatever the minimum is the get them to work. The market price directly impacts the farmers margin, but it only indirectly impacts the workers compensation. 

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