Gdm62 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Dear all, I will appreciate if someone can give me advice. I am with a retirement visa “O” Married with Thai lady and have a kid. I have been contacted by a foreign company I used to work for to install an industrial machine near Bangkok wish will take about one month. I will get paid by the foreign company in a foreign country, what should I do to be as legal as possible. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gdm62 said: Dear all, I will appreciate if someone can give me advice. I am with a retirement visa “O” Married with Thai lady and have a kid. I have been contacted by a foreign company I used to work for to install an industrial machine near Bangkok wish will take about one month. I will get paid by the foreign company in a foreign country, what should I do to be as legal as possible. thanks Get the company to ask the labour office not Immigration. A work permit is possible with your visa/extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 It depends, you are all over the place with how you describe you situation. But I read it as you are here on an extension of stay based on reirement.... so you should probably leave the country, entry again with a new VISA and apply for a marriage extension and apply also for a work permit. glegolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, glegolo said: you should probably leave the country, entry again with a new VISA and apply for a marriage extension and apply also for a work permit. glegolo Doesn't need to leave anywhere. Ask the local labour office. The legal requirement for a wp is a Non Immigrant Visa/Extension. Imm' always say must be B visa and that is totally wrong. They dont issue WP's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdm62 Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, overherebc said: Get the company to ask the labour office not Immigration. A work permit is possible with your visa/extension. 3 minutes ago, glegolo said: you should probably leave the country, entry again with a new VISA and apply for a marriage extension and apply also for a work permit. glegolo Thanks but I’ll not go out Thailand and quarantine for one month job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Don't go near Imm' on this. Stick to getting the company to ask the labour office. I worked for many years with a WP on a married visa/extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Based on what you wrote, it's difficult to tell what visa/extension you are on. So: If you have a non-o based on marriage (visa/extension) you can obtain a work permit. Have your employer contact the Ministry of Labor. If you have retirement visa or extension based on retirement you can not obtain a work permit. <period> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 If the company got you a wp you may have to accept a minimum payment for tax ( witholding ) but you could still get the remainder paid overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, overherebc said: If the company got you a wp you may have to accept a minimum payment for tax ( witholding ) but you could still get the remainder paid overseas. Hey dont you understand??? The guy is on retirement extension..... and married to a thai lady and have kids.... He can NOT work when being retired here in Thailand glegolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, glegolo said: and married to a thai lady and have kids.... He can NOT work when being retired here in Thailand 51 minutes ago, overherebc said: I worked for many years with a WP on a married visa/extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, glegolo said: Hey dont you understand??? The guy is on retirement extension..... and married to a thai lady and have kids.... He can NOT work when being retired here in Thailand glegolo Read carefully. It's not exactly clear if he has a married extension or retirement extension. PS Hay is for horses. Plus it is not unknwon for some offices to issue a wp on retirement extensions. It depends on the local office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, overherebc said: Read carefully. It's not exactly clear if he has a married extension or retirement extension. PS Hay is for horses. and "hey" is for??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, glegolo said: and "hey" is for??? Horses that can't spell ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, overherebc said: Horses that can't spell ??? Like the Beatles you mean?? "Hey Jude"!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Salerno said: You forgot to write in your own post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 An extension based on retirement = cannot legally work in Thailand An extension based on marriage = can (need to get wirk permit of course) Both extension types ate possoble for non-O visa Whatever you end up doing now I'd suggest you make sure your next extension is based on marriage not retirement. That way you can work if/as opportunities arise. In addition finslancial requirements are lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Sheryl said: An extension based on retirement = cannot legally work in Thailand An extension based on marriage = can (need to get wirk permit of course) Both extension types ate possoble for non-O visa Whatever you end up doing now I'd suggest you make sure your next extension is based on marriage not retirement. That way you can work if/as opportunities arise. In addition finslancial requirements are lower. I believe up until a few years ago that Imm' used to stamp 'employment not allowed' on retirement extensions. Nowadays they don't seem to do that. Maybe a good lawyer could argue the point for a wp on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 About five years ago, a friend of mine was hired locally and although married here, he was on a Retirement Extension. It took a lot of work by his Bangkok employers and whatever local immigration and labor offices they dealt with to get his Ret Ext 'converted' to a marriage one so he could get the WP and work 100% legally. That was with quite a large foreign company that had been registered and trading here for decades, initially with BOI privileges. I have recently heard that getting WP's for a non- BOI listed foreign cmpany isn't as fast as it used to be, ie. not impossible but may take longer than before? I had a client here a few years back that insisted we as a team of about 45-man crew, technicians and specialists, all get the "proper" visas and WP's for a planned 28 day offshore job that we wrapped up several days earlier because we simply exude excellence. It actually took longer to issue and process all the Non-O visa and WP paperwork, get the associated medicals then subsequently surrender the WP's and close out the project staffing issues than the actual bloody project itself. Bureaucratic madness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I don't think could get a work permit even if he qualified to get one. This from the OP. 2 hours ago, Gdm62 said: I have been contacted by a foreign company I used to work for to install an industrial machine near Bangkok wish will take about one month. Not possible unless they are registered here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: I don't think could get a work permit even if he qualified to get one. This from the OP. Not possible unless they are registered here. I reckon that puts a lid on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, overherebc said: I reckon that puts a lid on it. Unless the foreign company can convince the local company to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 If it did not involve on-site work, I'd advise gong ahead and doing it without a work permit given that he will be paid from abroad. But with on-site work in-country, too risky, not advisable. Do they have some local affiliate? You are going to need to change the extension to an extension based on marriage then get the paperwork for a work permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus111 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just do the one month work..say nothing...I am sure you would not have a problem. At the same time in what I say if you did longer problem maybe...... Take the money and say nothing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, marcus111 said: Just do the one month work..say nothing...I am sure you would not have a problem. At the same time in what I say if you did longer problem maybe...... Take the money and say nothing.... Thank you. Was looking for most inadequate post of the day. This is clear winner. The OP is married and also child. Asked for safe advice. That has been given. He cannot work on extension based on retirement. Your advice is reckless at best, however I'm sure that the OP would dismiss it in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE1 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I too was offered " casual " work in Thailand not long ago. Money paid outside the country , but all done without the proper permit. But with people grassing farangs up for any reason , I thought I had to much to lose , the money would have been great , but I had to weigh up the risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdm62 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 Thanks to all for your opinions and advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerculler Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 11/21/2020 at 1:43 PM, glegolo said: Hey dont you understand??? The guy is on retirement extension..... and married to a thai lady and have kids.... He can NOT work when being retired here in Thailand glegolo You are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 11/21/2020 at 6:26 AM, Gdm62 said: I am with a retirement visa “O”... This says it all, you are NOT allowed to work in Thailand, you are "retired". If your extension of stay was based on marriage, you were allowed to apply for a work permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherclaire Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 11/21/2020 at 1:53 PM, overherebc said: Read carefully. It's not exactly clear if he has a married extension or retirement extension. PS Hay is for horses. Plus it is not unknwon for some offices to issue a wp on retirement extensions. It depends on the local office. It's not allowed to work on a retirement visa/extension of stay. But everything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppyone Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 21 hours ago, Gdm62 said: Thanks to all for your opinions and advice So did you look in your passport to see if you have retirement visa or a retirement extension of stay ,we are none the wiser still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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