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Its probably 40 years since i last did a day without a drink, my bad i know. But I'm worried how my body will react to total abstinence for 15 nights. I know I can get a liter in from duty free. But a

The no alcohol rule is imposed by the government. I believe it exists because there is a perception that someone who has been drinking is liable to flout other quarantine rules. While that might not b

I think this highlights the issues and points quite well.    Without wishing to be sanctimonious and judgemental, someone who is exploring ways or is trying so hard to circumnavigate the rul

I was of course not serious about drinking the mouthwash.

 

I went cold turkey myself 12-13 years ago after a huge daily intake over many years. I did however have alcohol in the house just in case, and was clear that if symptoms got too heavy I would take some. The first day was tough, with shaking and sweating, but at evening time I didn't think I would expire overnite, and hey presto I'm still here, clean as a whistle.

 

Apart from quitting smoking (also huge intake) 17 years ago, alcohol free is the best thing I ever done to myself. It is hard to realise that life is worth living without, but you soon understand it is actually the other way around!

 

So to the OP, do as most posters suggest. See this as your great chance to finally get free of this burden, that will just get cumulatively bigger with time. And when ready, come to enjoy Thailand. Good luck!

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22 hours ago, natway09 said:

Australia & NZ are the same. Strictly no alcohol.

Some of the places there & here will let you have the odd Buri 

Stated Reason basically  " we are governed by the lowest common denomnator"

That's not entirely true. In all the eastern states, hotel quarantine will allow alcohol deliveries from bottlos or friends but they only bring it up to the room a 6 pack per day of beer or one bottle of wine, I'm not sure how they ration the spirits. Western Australia allows none, interestingly they have had many more abscond than the others. In the government facility at Howard Springs in NT (an ex construction workers camp) none is allowed. However they have more freedom to move round outside. I dont know about NZ.

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Perhaps related to the no alcohol regulations in ASQ, I was provided with a ceramic plate and bowl, a stainless fork and spoon, but no knife. 

Upon requesting a knife from reception was advised that they could only provide a plastic item, not a regular steel knife.

I guess they do not want a possible self-harm event from alcohol withdrawals in ASQ.

 

BTW no bag checks coming through the airport whatsoever. Once you have collected your bag from the carousel, they whisk you out in 90 seconds. No questions.

 

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I used to drink a lot and I identify with needing to know where the next drink is coming from. I gave up many years ago and got healthier, fitter and had more money and gained self-esteem. Why not use this opportunity to give up or cut back dramatically? Do something before arriving here as trying to doing it in ASQ and risking breaking the rules is not worth it - medically or legally ( you might be sent back) Best of luck and much respect to you airing the issue

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Thanks for all your replies guys. But I'm kind of wishing I hadn't asked now. Risk of death ? Maybe you're assuming I'm a bigger drinker than I actually am. Let me just say, I've just finished 3 months of 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. I use beer (never spirits) as a relaxant. I will typically drink 8 Pint cans of Stella a night, just to help me switch off. It has little affect on me, other than helping me relax. I get plenty of sleep and have no ill affects in the morning. My alcohol tolerance must be very high as when I'm home in Udon Thani, I generally drink a box of 12 large Singha's every day without getting noticeably drunk or suffering hangovers.

 

Will stopping this kind of routine still pose serious health risks ? 

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1 minute ago, Oldterrier said:

Thanks for all your replies guys. But I'm kind of wishing I hadn't asked now. Risk of death ? Maybe you're assuming I'm a bigger drinker than I actually am. Let me just say, I've just finished 3 months of 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. I use beer (never spirits) as a relaxant. I will typically drink 8 Pint cans of Stella a night, just to help me switch off. It has little affect on me, other than helping me relax. I get plenty of sleep and have no ill affects in the morning. My alcohol tolerance must be very high as when I'm home in Udon Thani, I generally drink a box of 12 large Singha's every day without getting noticeably drunk or suffering hangovers.

 

Will stopping this kind of routine still pose serious health risks ? 

I'm glad you finally replied. This thread quickly went from is alcohol allowed in ASQ or not.

Quickly morphed into rubbish about alcoholics. 

For the record I'm a heavy drinker similar to yourself. 

Couple years back a group myself and friends went up to CM for fitness gig. Zero booze for one month instant withdrawal. 

Guess what. From 7 people zero issue. Note the other guys far more serious drinkers. 

This thread imo is rubbish. 

The question was can you order booze when in quarantine. Answer is NO. 

Rest of posts are nonsense.

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22 minutes ago, Oldterrier said:

Thanks for all your replies guys. But I'm kind of wishing I hadn't asked now. Risk of death ? Maybe you're assuming I'm a bigger drinker than I actually am. Let me just say, I've just finished 3 months of 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. I use beer (never spirits) as a relaxant. I will typically drink 8 Pint cans of Stella a night, just to help me switch off. It has little affect on me, other than helping me relax. I get plenty of sleep and have no ill affects in the morning. My alcohol tolerance must be very high as when I'm home in Udon Thani, I generally drink a box of 12 large Singha's every day without getting noticeably drunk or suffering hangovers.

 

Will stopping this kind of routine still pose serious health risks ? 

I think 8 pints is ~180ml pure alcohol (8*473*0.048) and ~11 'drinks' (for some reason beer 'drinks' are defined as 12oz). So that's ~1250ml pure alcohol or 75 'drinks' per week.

 

This sounded like a lot to me, and googling confirms that. For example the mortality charts in this article top out at 400g pure alcohol per week, about 1/3 your consumption. Somewhere else I read that >24 drinks per week - also about 1/3 your level of consumption - was enough to be in the top 10% of drinkers in the US.

 

I'm sure DrJack's post is accurate, but seven isn't a huge sample; it might be worth getting some advice from a doctor with experience in alcohol issues.  If there's even a 1 in 1000 chance of a serious problem, and it can be reduced, why not reduce it?

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10 hours ago, Topah said:

Brew beer yourself while in quarantine.

No doubt you are joking but, just in case, brewing beer takes several weeks. Unless you are allowed to bring the partially brewed beer with you, and only complete the process in quarantine, unfortunately, this is not viable. Nor is fermenting large quantities of fruit you bring with you.

 

EDIT: Purely out of academic interest, I did look to see if there are rapid ways to create alcohol. Apparently, there are ethanol production methods that take only three days. I suspect alcohol withdrawal would be a lesser risk.

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