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Trump is loser, a liar, and a cheat!

This poor excuse for a man is the ultimate T-U-R-D!

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8 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

not likely to be a problem at all.  even though trump appointed these judges, they are in no way required to rule according to his wishes. 

 

he wanted "strict constructionist, not activist" judges who will rule according to the law and legal precedent.  if they do accept one ,or possibly two, of his elite lethal team's hail mary's, the suits will be soundly defeated.

 

he wanted "strict constructionist, not activist"

As if he knows what those terms mean.

He does not stand for anything except himself and his money, then comes family.  Other than that he's about as concerned as he is for the insects he steps on at the golf course.

He sees the appointments as favors, and expects something in return.  Haven't you heard the word "transactional" often enough?

Having gone through Catholic instruction as a kid, I know that questioning the higher-ups and standing up to authority is not part of the culture. 

Kavanaugh already threw in a few weeks ago

https://www.thedailybeast.com/justice-brett-kavanaugh-parrots-trump-in-ominous-anti-mail-in-ballot-ruling-in-wisconsin-decision-footnote

 

Alito gave a speech a few weeks ago that could have been made in 1956 on the ill effects of Elvis Presley on society.  Probably thinks Vatican II was too radical.

 

 

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On 11/22/2020 at 2:26 PM, RocketDog said:

Agreed. Let America go its own way and leave the world to sort its own problems. The time for depending on the USA to "benefit" the world is over. 

 

Let Americans wallow in the squalor of their backward society and struggle to survive on its meager resources and uneducated masses of unproductive workers. Let them face the reality of how dependent they are on the largesse of the rest of the world. 

Apparently my sarcasm was misunderstood. 

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16 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Good points. I add that he can't/doesn't think about anything other than in terms of himself and his ego, his racist and his white supremitist attitudes, and screw the USA. 

And in terms of screwing trhe USA, have a look at what he is having done with regards to the Open Skies Treaty, and destry=oying the US ability to monitor potential aggressors.

 

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8 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

The Michigan state board has voted to certify the state's election results in favor of Biden:

 

https://www.cbs58.com/news/michigans-state-board-certifies-bidens-win

 

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11 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

he wanted "strict constructionist, not activist"

As if he knows what those terms mean.

He does not stand for anything except himself and his money, then comes family.  Other than that he's about as concerned as he is for the insects he steps on at the golf course.

He sees the appointments as favors, and expects something in return.  Haven't you heard the word "transactional" often enough?

Having gone through Catholic instruction as a kid, I know that questioning the higher-ups and standing up to authority is not part of the culture. 

Kavanaugh already threw in a few weeks ago

https://www.thedailybeast.com/justice-brett-kavanaugh-parrots-trump-in-ominous-anti-mail-in-ballot-ruling-in-wisconsin-decision-footnote

 

Alito gave a speech a few weeks ago that could have been made in 1956 on the ill effects of Elvis Presley on society.  Probably thinks Vatican II was too radical.

 

 

 

i wouldn't read too much into that.  he was explaining a possible scenario of what states may be wanting to avoid. 

 

regardless, the us supreme court does not determine state election ballot rules.  those are decided by the state legislatures.  he was absolutely correct in his vote.  the state supreme court, not the legislature, extended the deadline.  that's unconstitutional.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-election-supreme-court-rules-againt-absentee-ballots-after-election-day/

 

meanwhile, in the case of pennsylvania, the state supreme court ruled to extend receipt of ballots by three days, when the state legislature voted not to.  that can was kicked down the road, letting it stand, but requiring ballots be segregated in the event it became decisive.  it did not.

 

had the contest been close, the supremes would have accepted the case again, and would have rightly ruled the state supreme court decision to be unconstitutional, giving trump the win in that race.  as it turned out, with only a few thousand ballots in play, the decision would not have changed the outcome, so they left it to a future court.

 

now don't think i'm a trump lover, i'm interpreting the law as written.  the legislature writes the rules, not the courts.  personally, i think that all valid ballots postmarked by election day should be counted within a reasonable time......7 days sounds good.  but we want to uphold that there constitution thing, so the citizens of the state are gonna have to elect representatives that will change the laws accordingly.  we don't want federal judges messing with the state election because of feelz.

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Detroit had more vote errors in 2016, when Trump won Michigan by a narrow margin. He didn’t object.

Republican Party leaders who urged Michigan's state canvassing board to hold off certifying the Nov. 3 election results before it met Monday cited what they described as "significant problems and irregularities" in Wayne County, home of Detroit.

But state and county election data shows that four years ago — when Donald Trump carried the state by a much narrower margin — twice as many Detroit precincts were out of balance.

Detroit had more vote errors in 2016 when Trump won Michigan by a narrow margin. He didn’t object then. - The Washington Post

 

Even though the vote was lower in the 2016 election it had twice the number of discrepancies as did this election. 

 

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3 hours ago, placeholder said:

"regardless, the us supreme court does not determine state election ballot rules.  those are decided by the state legislatures.  he was absolutely correct in his vote.  the state supreme court, not the legislature, extended the deadline."

What you decided as being "absolutely correct" is actually absolutely controversial. This is a new doctrine concocted by extreme right wing legal theorists that the state legislature alone can make such decisions. But given the extreme right wing nature of the current court, they will probably adopt it.

Conservative Supreme Court justices are threatening a post-election coup

They are pushing a theory that makes a mockery of America’s constitutional design.

Conservative Supreme Court justices are threatening a post-election coup - The Boston Globe

Once a legislature certifies the state results, that argument disappears as it basically affirms the decisions that incorporates the requirements that any courts earlier mandated.

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