Bangkok: BMA want three month truck ban to help with poor air quality - police considering

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Bangkok: BMA want three month truck ban to help with poor air quality - police considering

 

Picture: Sanook

 

A representative of an environmental agency at the Bangkok Metropolitan Authority said after a meeting that they had decided on a ban on ten wheel trucks and larger entering the city and surrounding areas.

 

It could even be extended to six wheelers. 

 

Wirat Manatsanitwong said that tests showed that nearly three quarters of the air pollution in the capital was caused by road transport. 

 

The proposal is to ban trucks from the start of December to the end of February to help lower pollution levels that have been high in recent days with many references to PM 2.5 - the buzzword for particulate matter in the air. 

 

The Royal Thai Police have been informed and are now discussing how and where a ban could be enforced. 

 

Source: Sanook

 

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[Geoffggi]

Exactly how do they propose to re-stock all the superstores etc .............LOL

[kingstonkid]

Thgey did this before and set a time frame that the rigs can come in.  I think it was like 10 to 5 or something like that.  If you are not  out of the city you have to park your   truck. 

[PETERTHEEATER]

Another impractical decision. The Environmental Agency are imposing the ban but cannot implement it. There is no doubt that unmaintained truck engines contribute to air pollution but as a proportion of the overall traffic mass of motorcycles, cars and trucks but do they produce the greatest percentage of overall pollution? As long as a million retail outlets need daily servicing this is just another non-starter. 

[robblok]

1 minute ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Another impractical decision. The Environmental Agency are imposing the ban but cannot implement it. There is no doubt that unmaintained truck engines contribute to air pollution but as a proportion of the overall traffic mass of motorcycles, cars and trucks but do they produce the greatest percentage of overall pollution? As long as a million retail outlets need daily servicing this is just another non-starter. 

True, but they should check those trucks better. Its all about maintenance and most of those trucks are not maintained well. As for motorbikes everyone should ride one as they produce far less pollution per kilometer as a car. 

 

The most black smoke i see comes from trucks or pickups that are not maintained. It usually is not personal cars or motorbikes but pickups and trucks. 

[NE1]

What gets me is , you see the transport police checking the trucks on Rama 2 for example , about 500 metres down the road there are trucks parked up everywhere waiting for the transport police to leave.

Obviously they are illegal in ome way or another , but because they pull over before the police check , nobody bothers them..

[Cake Monster]

1 hour ago, Geoffggi said:

Exactly how do they propose to re-stock all the superstores etc .............LOL

Ban all " Big wheelers " and for every one banned give the deliveries to the Pickup Truck Drivers

1 Big Wheeler = maybe 20 Pickup Trucks ( Est )

Makes perfect sense. 

[ThaidDown]

Wife will be setting up a service on the main roads, just before entering Bangkok, for all ten wheelers. 500/1000 Baht/truck.

 

Service will be to remove just one of the rear wheels/tyres and replace it when the truck leaves Bkk.

 

When stopped by police......'no no officer this is not a ten wheel truck.. it's a nine wheel truck therefore allowed'.

 

 

[sathuluv]

We cure the symptoms always. What is the root cause of this issue? Trucks not going through emission checks to hit the road or just too much air pollution?

back to basics please. 

[Migrosmarket]

Cart and horse delivery services now then?

 

Or maybe off load to pickups and jam the streets with more vehicles?

 

Or just let everyone go hungry?

 

Or.... collect some tea money from those "essential" deliveries......

[Badboldie]

Best answer would be for all vehicles, or commercial vehs, to have an annual emmisions test!

Hopefully breaks and Lights a well! 

[Isaan sailor]

Every day the Baht rises.  Could be a part of the master plan to close down factories and companies and throw millions out of work.  And that would stop pollution dead in its tracks. Brilliant.

[Burma Bill]

4 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Exactly how do they propose to re-stock all the superstores etc .............LOL

Yes indeed, even refilling petrol/gasoline stations!

[digger70]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

BMA want three month truck ban to help with poor air quality - police considering

That's a braindead idea . How in the name of Satan can they think of a stupid idea like that.

Trucks supplying all the Shops /Businesses How on earth can the City work like that.

[outsider]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

The proposal is to ban trucks from the start of December to the end of February...

 

And after three months, we all go back to our merry ways, until the next round of haze. Words and phrases like 'continuity', 'sustainability' and 'long-term' don't enter your puny brains whenever you guys do any 'thinking' or 'planning', do they? And what about buses in Bangkok belching enormous black smokescreens every time the drivers' foot go anywhere near the accelerator - these should be banned. Permanently.

 

[Yom]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Wirat Manatsanitwong said that tests showed that nearly three quarters of the air pollution in the capital was caused by road transport. 

Something is wrong with this?

At least it would be a start.

Then, one quarter of the 'ordinary' air pollution might come from burning

sugar cane or rice stubbles.  -  So, trash burning, Industries and flying in

PM2.5 pollution, all this too,  only oen quater? 

Maths is difficult.

 

 

 

 

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

A representative of an environmental agency at the Bangkok Metropolitan Authority said after a meeting that they had decided on a ban on ten wheel trucks and larger entering the city and surrounding areas.

 

It could even be extended to six wheelers.

This shows just how inept they are at solving the problem.

[hotchilli]

9 hours ago, Yom said:

Something is wrong with this?

At least it would be a start.

Then, one quarter of the 'ordinary' air pollution might come from burning

sugar cane or rice stubbles.  -  So, trash burning, Industries and flying in

PM2.5 pollution, all this too,  only oen quater? 

Maths is difficult.

 

 

 

 

Don't forget all the pollution from construction sites.

[brianthainess]

14 hours ago, Badboldie said:

Best answer would be for all vehicles, or commercial vehs, to have an annual emmisions test!

Hopefully breaks and Lights a well! 

But they are all tested when renewing road tax. But they do not test correctly, testing emissions on IDLE not flooring it till the governors of the pump kick in. And what about those running on CNG are they to be banned as well. Ideas from BMA who have no idea about road transport.

[Surelynot]

If this proposal had any merits the logical extension would be a permanent ban.......obviously it can't/won't work in practice. 

 

I see the ban, if enacted, will come to an end just in time for the sugarcane burning season....perfect!

[KeeTua]

What this translated article left out from the Sanook article is the plan is to leave it to the police to determine the times กำหนดเวลา the trucks would not be allowed into the inner city. That could mean around the clock ban or limit trucks to certain hours which would be far more likely.