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Interesting:  This cannot be the fault of, I can do no wrong, cha cha.   A military government mixed with unaccountably,  non debate is not to blame for an "authoritarianism under the rigid staff hierarchy in hospitals."   These people are mistaken.

 

Gosh this bad student movement may be good for the country but bad for army and the elites.  Guessing the families that run Thailand may want the generalissimo to retire if this keeps up.   He is the perfect escape goat now for those who wish to remain accountable .

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6 hours ago, webfact said:

Most complained of authoritarianism under the rigid staff hierarchy in hospitals. Another frequent complaint was the amount of overtime that doctors and trainee medics must work.

This is true of a lot of countries.  In Australia there has been several suicides by young doctors working in hospitals.  Recently a young female doctor reported to the press that her crazy long work hours was the reason she was quitting.

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23 minutes ago, lujanit said:

This is true of a lot of countries.  In Australia there has been several suicides by young doctors working in hospitals.  Recently a young female doctor reported to the press that her crazy long work hours was the reason she was quitting.

 

I don't thing that applies to Thai hospitals.

 

Recently I was in need of seeing a urologist, so I called the nearby government hospital to inquire, and was told they had one Monday to Friday from 9am to midday.

 

So on Monday I went and was told I needed an appointment, and was told the next available was 7 weeks in the future.

 

When I objected that this was ridiculous, I was given one for next Friday.

 

I was there at 8.30am, a doctor who supposed to work from 9am till midday, arrived at 10am and left at 11.30am

 

Waiting room was empty by the time he left.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, yellowboat said:

Interesting:  This cannot be the fault of, I can do no wrong, cha cha.   A military government mixed with unaccountably,  non debate is not to blame for an "authoritarianism under the rigid staff hierarchy in hospitals."   These people are mistaken.

 

Gosh this bad student movement may be good for the country but bad for army and the elites.  Guessing the families that run Thailand may want the generalissimo to retire if this keeps up.   He is the perfect escape goat now for those who wish to remain accountable .

 

Nice try but total nonsense. 

 

The current government, whilst doing nothing to improve or change these things, isn't responsible for their implementation. 

 

How many years were the Shins in power in total? What changes, reforms or interest did they show in this? Zero, too busy lining their own pockets.

 

Let's see if these brave young people want real change and not get suckered by just changing the faces back to the Shin team. To secure the changes they want, they need all the old dinosaurs getting replaced and not by younger ones in their control. No more puppets.

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1 hour ago, Susco said:

 

I don't thing that applies to Thai hospitals.

 

Recently I was in need of seeing a urologist, so I called the nearby government hospital to inquire, and was told they had one Monday to Friday from 9am to midday.

 

So on Monday I went and was told I needed an appointment, and was told the next available was 7 weeks in the future.

 

When I objected that this was ridiculous, I was given one for next Friday.

 

I was there at 8.30am, a doctor who supposed to work from 9am till midday, arrived at 10am and left at 11.30am

 

Waiting room was empty by the time he left.

 

 

 

 

 

That's a qualified experienced doctor NOT a medical student. Here doctors often seem to work at several hospitals holding clinics on various days and times. People can see the doctor at which hospital/clinic is convenient.

 

My daughter wants to be a doctor and two doctors are advising her. Both recommend medical schools with overseas placements. One was very candied about the teaching regimes in Thai medical schools being too authoritarian and formal. 

 

Medical students in the UK are worked hard, very hard. I know from friends' experiences. As are junior doctors. But one of my doctor friends here tells me the Thai system is much much worse, and unnecessarily so. 

 

If you want a very good urologist recommendation, PM me.

 

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#badeverything 🥱

 

Is everyone in every sphere of society saying they want reform really likely to actually lead to reform?  Doesn't it get to the point where there are many things that you simply cannot change without years of hard work, campaigning and offering alternatives?

 

Do these people think that they only need to make a hashtag and the work will do itself?

 

Really hoping Thailand doesn't follow the Western trend of allowing children to dictate everything simply because "they are the future".

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6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

#badeverything 🥱

 

Is everyone in every sphere of society saying they want reform really likely to actually lead to reform?  Doesn't it get to the point where there are many things that you simply cannot change without years of hard work, campaigning and offering alternatives?

 

Do these people think that they only need to make a hashtag and the work will do itself?

 

Really hoping Thailand doesn't follow the Western trend of allowing children to dictate everything simply because "they are the future".

Why would be compare two groups that have nothing to do with each other?   Thai young people want what American youngsters are eager to ignore or get rid of.   Why is it some on this forum have to compare Thailand to the west when there are excellent, home grown democracies in Asia for the sake of reference?

 

What the goons in green are worried about is a sunflower movement:

https://carnegieendowment.org/2018/08/02/activist-legacy-of-taiwan-s-sunflower-movement-pub-76966

This changed Taiwan.   The army does not want change.

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