Popular Post sandyf 6,305 Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, miamiman123 said: How is that recovery even possible when the rest of the people in the world like the USA, the UK et al are in desperate financial straits, and are in no position to travel even if they could? A distorted point of view, certainly as far as the UK is concerned. The majority of those in "desperate financial straits" were probably never in a position to travel anyway. Those that continued to work throughout the year and pensioners, which account for about 20% of the population, have probably watched their bank balance inflate during the crisis. When travel does start to move again, every chance the preference will be for short haul with long haul taking that bit longer. As far as Agoda is concerned, we use the We Travel Together quite regularly and and have found in many cases our choices to be fully booked. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post johng 17,123 Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, herwin1234 said: Stop the unfounded negativity. If you want to believe Thailand's "incredible" figures then "up to you" the fact remains that there where around 7000 tourists from Wuhan arrive in Thailand at the beginning of this WuFlu debacle and rise of "viral pneumonia" deaths this year. 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post spidermike007 36,872 Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Tourism will NOT be recovering here anytime soon. A year or two, at the minimum, and even then it will be a pale shadow of the previous numbers. Many problems existed here, long before Covid, that were never addressed. You keep your nation sealed off from the world, and the world will sooner or later the world forgets about you. Thailand is NOT the center of the universe, nor is it the most desirable nation on earth. It is great that the Thais are stepping up, taking advantage of great deals, and supporting the tourism industry. It helps, no doubt. But, it is only a portion of what the hotels, restaurants, and other businesses need. The industry is hurting, big time. Thailand needs courageous leadership. They don't have it. The army are major cowards. ANY person from ANY nation should be welcome starting tomorrow, if they are willing to subject themselves to a 14 day quarantine and pay excessive fees for that two week sentence. There is no downside or risk, and only upside for the nation. No groveling from a local consulate should be required. That is utter nonsense. A covid free letter and a booking at an approved hotel. Period. No more insane "Phuket or Samui" models". And no special health insurance either. Quarantine is enough of a penalty already. Stop being silly and stop the nonsense. But, the reality is, that if Thailand had a qualified health minister, and a slightly intelligent tourism minister, they would stop this nonsense, and realize no tourism program requiring quarantine will ever work. Period. Any such program will never attract more than a few thousand tourists a year. Testing is the answer. Plain and simple. Edited November 25, 2020 by spidermike007 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites
thurien 347 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: Once whichever vaccine starts to be distributed the paranoia will be relieved no TH official or other source ever mentioned the extremely difficult handling / logistics of all of these C19 vaccines: At ultra-low temp. !! your deep freezer environment does not qualify...a challenge for a lot of countries 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post terryofcrete 408 Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kaopad999 said: Thailand most certainly top 5 in the world for Covid response. It will be interesting to know the final winner once Covid has finished. 15th on the list just published in Bloomberg. NZ No.1 . I suspect the absence of testing would affect the rankings . Edited November 25, 2020 by terryofcrete 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Sheryl 27,240 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Posts spouting exterme conspiracy theory nonsense have bee ]n removed 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Lacessit 22,479 Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 Complete nonsense. For one thing, airlines have to be up and running again, and the days of people being able to fly cheaply are gone. Qantas is saying it will require all passengers to be vaccinated before they can board. A holiday where you spend the first 14 days of it in quarantine, then when you go back to your home country, another 14 days there, at mandated costs? What is Mr. Brown smoking, I want some. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Magenta408 295 Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 Agoda??? Do they have any skin in the game? They say that about every country. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
damascase 2,294 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, madmitch said: I've just looked at Booking Holdings' share price and was amazed to see it is almost back to where it was in January! Very surprised at this but I suppose announcements like this are there to inspire confidence in shareholders, even if most hotel owners are taking a more realistic view. Thanks to the 64 million Euro they received from the Dutch Government for their Amsterdam office to survive, perhaps? The year before they made an enormous profit, which disappeared in the pockets of management and shareholders. And then cry for help when business slows down........ Edited November 25, 2020 by damascase Typo 2 Link to post Share on other sites
digger70 2,240 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: He said the world was looking towards Asia. Yea right they may looking at it, that doesn't a thing . Let them back in and see what happens ,most countries aren't doing so good in containing the Virus. They may let many suspect virus carries back in. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post joecoolfrog 5,546 Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, herwin1234 said: isnt it true! The Thai leaders completely listened to science and didnt abuse it for political reasons. What a complete shame for Trump to even make wearing a mask into a culture war. You are correct about Trump but EVERYTHING the current Thai leadership does is connected to a single political goal. One would have to be remarkably naive not to grasp that fact. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Jaye Mak Mak 1 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Looking on the visa boards, and traffic through the RTE London, lots are taking up the option of the TR visa, it will be appealing to those who can afford to take off several months and with talk of reduced quarantine, I see January being a busy(ish) month for returnees and expats, let’s hope we start to see an uptick in arrivals soon. Edited November 25, 2020 by Jaye Mak Mak 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dumbastheycome 5,697 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, thurien said: no TH official or other source ever mentioned the extremely difficult handling / logistics of all of these C19 vaccines: At ultra-low temp. !! your deep freezer environment does not qualify...a challenge for a lot of countries The "technology" is not such a difficult problem in that Thailand has a manufacturing capacity to provide it. It may well be being undertaken as of this moment. The real issue is in the capacity of effective administration . Maybe there is time between now and when such vaccines are available that a rapid training program is undertaken? There need be some imperative in that ! I have seen the waste of expensive distributions of rabies vaccines being handed out to people nominated as dog owners to take home in their hand or pocket to inject at any such time as their dog appears on the doorstep. That vaccine also deteriorates quickly if above a critical temperature in less than 10 minutes ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Tracy 691 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Excellent sourcing: RYT got it from Infoquest, who presumably got it from CNBC. Although there is the possibility of the proverbial Chinese whispers, I have yet to see where he said that a quick recovery was expected. The quote is: "Speaking on CNBC Mr Brown said that signs were that both Thailand and Taiwan would lead the way in Asia where recovery is likely to be far quicker than in the west." is likely to be far quicker than the west....not that a quick recovery is expected. Poetic license, or fake news? Link to post Share on other sites
bkk6060 12,953 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand and Taiwan's domestic tourism market was getting going again. I agree these long weekends every month have increased the number of tourists at the popular destinations. The problem from my observation is it is just increasing debt. Many putting hotels, restaurants, shopping, etc. on their credit cards. To add, the Thais I know usually make the minimum payment every month some carrying 3 or 4 credit cards. Link to post Share on other sites
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