Cannabis Removed from Drug List

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Cannabis Removed from Drug List

 

 

BANGKOK, Nov 25 (TNA) – The Narcotics Control Board decided to remove cannabis plants from the list of narcotics, catagory 5 to allow wider use for medicinal purposes.

 

Permanent Secretary for Public Health, Kiarttiphum Wongjit  and Secretary-General of the Food and Drug Administration, Paisan Dankhum told a press briefing that the Narcotics Control Board resolved to remove leaves, stems, stalks and roots of cannabis plants including both Kancha and Kanchong from the narcotics list.

 

The removal is to pave the way for more access to use cannabis for medical purposes as well as in textile, cosmetic and pharmaceutical industries.

 

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[fasteddie]

''leaves, stems, stalks and roots''? not flowers?

[Lingba]

and what about the buds/flowers....the part that matters???

 

[Slaps]

 

 

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It's a start

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[rkidlad]

51 minutes ago, Lingba said:

and what about the buds/flowers....the part that matters???

 

You must promise to throw them away after you've used the rest of the plant.

 

I'll be sure to burn mine in small quantities to make sure. 

[Kwasaki]

It should stay illegal except for medical use IMO.

[rkidlad]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

It should stay illegal except for medical use IMO.

I've have this medical condition called 'boredom'. Weed really helps with this. 

[mr mr]

10 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

It should stay illegal except for medical use IMO.

sounds like you should try some. 

[chickenslegs]

1 hour ago, fasteddie said:

''leaves, stems, stalks and roots''? not flowers?

Buds and flowers are just modified leaves, so I expect they are covered by this change in legislation.

 

However, TiT.

[Dumbastheycome]

31 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

It should stay illegal except for medical use IMO.

Would you  be willing  to explain  your point of view?

[ramr]

6 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Would you  be willing  to explain  your point of view?

 

I doubt he/she would, since 95% of the arguments of this type usually sound stupid when you actually have to say them out loud and then defend them logically.

I actually have more respect for this viewpoint when it's also applied to alcohol and even other mind-altering drugs like coffee.  I'd disagree with it, but at least it would be consistent.  Go Mormon or go home!

And hell, if you wanna go deeper and ban things that artificially jack around with your dopamine and/or serotonin, you could do a lot worse than banning sugar (in all its guises), social media, and TV.  Except for "medicinal purposes," of course.  Would love to see the doctor's note for that!

 

Edited November 25, 2020 by ramr
stubborn

[Dumbastheycome]

4 minutes ago, ramr said:

 

I doubt he/she would, since 95% of the arguments of this type usually sound stupid when you actually have to say them out loud and then defend them logically.

 

So would  you be so  bld as to explain  your point of view? ????

[Kwasaki]

14 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Would you  be willing  to explain  your point of view?

Yeah it's a drug that helps sick people.

[Kwasaki]

48 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

I've have this medical condition called 'boredom'. Weed really helps with this. 

You should try something else it's called living life.

[Dumbastheycome]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

Yeah it's a drug that helps sick people.

And for those  who are  not "evaluated" to be sick then what  harm?

I am not attempting  to  advocate usage nor  deride  your opinion  raher than establish  your view and .knowledge of .

[ChaiyaTH]

Well at least it not be illegal to have an entire indoor grow setup with live plants, as long there are no buds on it yet... Very good start as you can make ten thousands of products from hemp, almost anything you can imagine actually. Can earn more than rice too + hemp improves the soil and has long roots, it is a good off season plant.

 

There is even a bullet proof winter jacket made from Hemp, just endless possibilities really. Good for the planet too.

Edited November 25, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[ChaiyaTH]

Hemp Hoodlamb
 

[ramr]

19 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Yeah it's a drug that helps sick people.

 

The devil's in the details and the definition, pardner.  The problem I have with that is trusting the government (especially this one) to define "sick."  Let's not even talk about once the pharmaceutical industry gets their grubby paws on it to "help" the government decide on the definition...and of course who is allowed to sell it exclusively. 

The various implementations tried in other countries of playing games with doctor's notes is generally bulls**t....once legal for medical use, the product can find its way into the recreational grey market, so let's just act like adults and not waste everybody's time with the charade, OK?

If we don't do it with alcohol, something with measurably much worse societal health effects and costs, we shouldn't do it with cannabis.  

A real head-scratcher why so many people feel threatened by this.  And I mean "feel," since there doesn't appear to be much logic or even pragmatism guiding the emotion.

 

The fact that cannabis--in contrast to alcohol and almost every other drug--does not have a measurable lethal dose should tell you a lot.  Hell, most legal, prescribed pharmaceuticals have a lethal dose.  Freakin' ibuprofen has a lethal dose.  

 

Edited November 25, 2020 by ramr
clarity

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, Lingba said:

and what about the buds/flowers....the part that matters???

 

That is still illegal 7 fortunately. You can grow the plant but it apparently must be budless.  Hemp only.  Time to use alcohol on the leaves and trim and make some hash.  Squeeze out the stalks and stems and make some Butane Honey oil.  

Edited November 25, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[ramr]

5 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

That is still illegal 7 fortunately. You can grow the plant but it apparently must be budless.  Hemp only.  Time to use alcohol on the leaves and trim and make some hash.  Squeeze out the stalks and stems and make some Butane Honey oil.  

You forgot to add at the end, "I mean, or so I've heard.  From a friend."

 

[rkidlad]

17 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

You should try something else it's called living life.

Alright, Alan Partridge. 

[Kwasaki]

12 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

And for those  who are  not "evaluated" to be sick then what  harm?

I am not attempting  to  advocate usage nor  deride  your opinion  raher than establish  your view and .knowledge of .

I don't like any drugs of this kind I believe they lead people to progress to worse drugs.

I seen it happen to people I knew in England and it did not end well.

[impulse]

41 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Would you  be willing  to explain  your point of view?

 

Watch Reefer Madness.  It's in there.

 

Besides, Prohibition worked so well...

 

[ramr]

26 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

So would  you be so  bld as to explain  your point of view? ????

 

Have I--to your satisfaction--yet?  

I'd also be happy to explain my stance on medically legalizing things like Ketamine, MDMA, and psilocybin mushrooms for strictly controlled psychological use for treating treatment- and medication-resistant depression, PTSD, and hard drug addiction.  I'm for it, but wouldn't necessarily want to legalize them for recreational use without further research and analysis.  Especially the ketamine and MDMA.  

Legalizing cannabis, however, is a no-brainer, though I could honestly see the wisdom of putting some *moderate* limits on how strong it can be.

[ramr]

9 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

I don't like any drugs of this kind I believe they lead people to progress to worse drugs.

I seen it happen to people I knew in England and it did not end well.

Yet you've never seen alcohol ruin lives?

I can understand it's really rough seeing people you know and people you care about go down the tubes, but does your math add up?

Because the statistics don't even put cannabis in the same galaxy as alcohol, risk-wise, much less the same league.

 

 

Edited November 25, 2020 by ramr

[Kwasaki]

20 minutes ago, ramr said:

 

so let's just act like adults and not waste everybody's time with the charade, OK?

A real head-scratchier why so many people feel threatened by this.  And I mean "feel," since there doesn't appear to be much logic or even pragmatism guiding the emotion.

 

The fact that cannabis--in contrast to alcohol and almost every other drug--does not have a measurable lethal dose should tell you a lot.  Hell, most legal, prescribed pharmaceuticals have a lethal dose.  Freakin' ibuprofen has a lethal dose.  

 

Well all I can say if slap heads wanna keep taking it fine, they can look forward to their schizophrenia bouts.

[amexpat]

25 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

I don't like any drugs of this kind I believe they lead people to progress to worse drugs.

I seen it happen to people I knew in England and it did not end well.

Oh,  the old "Gateway Drug" claim.  I haven't heard that in the last couple of decades. 

[Donga]

36 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

I don't like any drugs of this kind I believe they lead people to progress to worse drugs.

I seen it happen to people I knew in England and it did not end well.

 

Most cannabis smokers don't become drug addicts, just like most beer drinkers don't become alcoholics.
Cannabis induces a relaxing, pleasant feeling. Alcohol does too, but tends to more volatile. So even with non-alcoholics, intoxication can cause much more harm in disputes, violence and driving accidents. No comparison in societal harm.
The experience of Portugal, Canada and recent US states that have legalized cannabis is overwhelmingly positive.
Don't be afraid of recreational cannabis, though agree with ramr - ideally don't want the super strong stuff being choofed. Not necessary, and just like too much alcohol in one sitting, it doesn't make sense either.

Edited November 25, 2020 by Donga

[teacherclaire]

The removal is to pave the way for more access to use cannabis for medical purposes as well as in textile, cosmetic and pharmaceutical industries.

 

What's next? Coffeshops like in Amsterdam?

[ramr]

8 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Well all I can say if slap heads wanna keep taking it fine, they can look forward to their schizophrenia bouts.

I know we've been butting heads so far, but yeah, I get it.  Schizophrenia is a risk with cannabis.  The risk is quite small, BUT the following increase the risk:

1.  being in the small percentage of people with an underlying susceptibility to schizophrenia or similar mental problems

2.  high-THC percentage (i.e. the stronger product that has been developed over the past few years)

3.  frequent smoking

4.  starting young

For these reasons, I would favor legalization with an age limit of 20-25 (to put it bluntly, but lovingly: kids are idiots, and their brains are still developing), and possibly limiting the THC% strength in recreational cannabis.  I would also favor education about responsible use, rather than using the scare tactics of the past.

And yes, the schizophrenia thing has happened to a friend of mine, and heavy cannabis use was just one of many factors involved.  He doesn't blame the cannabis or think it should be illegal.

Self-destructive people will always find a way to self-destruct.