robblok Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 17 hours ago, JonnyF said: Exactly. Varadkar was giving it the bigunn to the UK when he thought the "big boys" were backing him up. Turns out they were using him as a pawn and will drop them like a hot potato if it helps them protect their precious protectionist racket, sorry I mean single market. I also have little sympathy for them. They may end up being the true losers of Brexit. You really don't seem to understand how economics works. Its ok not everyone has had the same (economic) education. To call the one market a protection racket is crazy. Could you explain it with facts what is wrong to have companies all have the same rules to follow for labor and polution and state support so competition on those grounds is impossible and only normal competition stays ? Could it be that the Brits are so inept at producing stuff that they need an unfair advantage ? Far more likely is that giving in to these demands means that BJ cant show his promised freedoms and looses fate. He rather screws the country then to let that happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 They keep saying there's a deal to be done, but they don't want to do it. The EU's idea of a deal is capitulation but some of them still haven't them realised yet that it's not going to happen. So the Irish will probably be the most affected by their EU's obstinacy, but who cares about them? Pity the similarly separatist Scotchies won't be affected but will continue to be protected and supported by the whole UK. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1366305/brexit-news-eu-uk-trade-deal-ireland-brexit-transition-period-fishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Loiner said: They keep saying there's a deal to be done, but they don't want to do it. The EU's idea of a deal is capitulation but some of them still haven't them realised yet that it's not going to happen. So the Irish will probably be the most affected by their EU's obstinacy, but who cares about them? Pity the similarly separatist Scotchies won't be affected but will continue to be protected and supported by the whole UK. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1366305/brexit-news-eu-uk-trade-deal-ireland-brexit-transition-period-fishing You really must read the articles and not just the headline. Had you done so, you would know what the Irish foreign minister Simon Coveney is calling ridiculous; and it aint the EU! Quote Mr Coveney said: “The British Government was offered a much longer transition period and they turned it down yet they're now blaming the EU for it. That's just ridiculous. They were very clear that they didn't want any more time despite the fact the EU was asking them to ask for it. The decision on the timelines is very much a British Government decision, not an EU one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Hasn't Boris already given the EU an extension? They still don't want to deal, just prevaricate and delay for something they are not going to get. They still keep coming with their demands though and the Irish slowly wake up to the fact they are screwed. Will Ursula's new golden girl tell Barnier where he has got to fold during this final week? The rest of the EU industrialists don't care about Macron and his fish. The Irish don't either, so why hasn't Barnier conceded? https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1365987/brexit-news-ursula-von-der-leyen-michel-barnier-eu-commission-boris-johnson-trade-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, Loiner said: Hasn't Boris already given the EU an extension? No. Boris Johnson will not ask for extension to Brexit transition period But then again, we all know how he is a man of his word: not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, 7by7 said: No. Boris Johnson will not ask for extension to Brexit transition period But then again, we all know how he is a man of his word: not! He had no other choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: He had no other choice Maybe not then; but he does now his puppet master has been shown the door by his fiance. I quote again from @Loiner's first Express link above: Quote Mr Coveney said: “The British Government was offered a much longer transition period and they turned it down yet they're now blaming the EU for it. That's just ridiculous. They were very clear that they didn't want any more time despite the fact the EU was asking them to ask for it. The decision on the timelines is very much a British Government decision, not an EU one." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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