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Killing of suspected Iranian nuclear mastermind risks confrontation as Trump exits


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1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

good news that some one has had the balls to take this dangerous guy out, but they should still use the bunker buster bombs to level the facility. BIden is an idiot if he thinks that he can 're engage' with those Iranian lunatics. Appeasement never works, I thought that the World had all learnt that in 1939, apparently subsequent generations have not learnt a thing. 

Like talking face to face with someone, them agreeing not to do something, and then when your not looking, they do it anyway.  You can not appease wannabe superpowers, who would level the world if they could to make a point.

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30 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Whatever the merits of your case, it's got nothing to do with Iran observing the terms of the agreement until Trump scuttled it and attacked Iran's economy.

That factory and technology probably took a year or more to develop. It was announced in Reuters July, 2018. You can work out all the dates.

 

I think Thorgal points out it may not be covered or counted under the agreement. That may be but it does show the agreement did little to actually restrict Iran's capabilities to produce weapons on short order, if they chose to do so.

 

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2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Would that include ALL the western scientists who have worked on nuclear weapons since 1942. That would be the USA, UK, France,  China, Pakistan, India, China, North Korea, German scientists, Isrealis and more that I cannot remember.

 

Yet Iran has not yet built or tested a nuclear weapon.

 

Remember that only one nation in  the world has actually used them in a war and it wasn't Iran.

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38 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Like talking face to face with someone, them agreeing not to do something, and then when your not looking, they do it anyway.  You can not appease wannabe superpowers, who would level the world if they could to make a point.

Like making generalizations to distract from the fact that you are offering no real evidence.

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24 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I have never seen Iranians while I lived there (1981), Syrians were there and it seems the Lebanese didn't had a problem with that because they kept the factions apart.

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9 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

He'll just show up with a pallet full of cash and all will be forgiven. Curses to American. Curses to D. Trump. Hurrah for Joe B.

 

(Moderators!!! Really!! More Reuters rubbish.)

And there the US thinking the return of Iranian assets seized by the US regime belong to the US regime.

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36 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Iran agreed to use only 300 kg of enriched uranium for 15 years.

 

They use use uranium with 3.67% grade enrichment only for power generating purposes. This has been agreed in the JCPOA deal and respected so far.

 

Uranium with minimal 20% grade enrichment can be used for medical grade research and technology. Iran has no 20% grade enrichment technology and stock.

 

Uranium with minimal 90% grade enrichment can be used for manufacturing nuclear warheads. Iran has no 90% grade enrichment technology and stock.

 

They can’t fabricate nuclear weapons. They don’t have the core ingredients, equipment and technology.

 

"Uranium with minimal 90% grade enrichment can be used for manufacturing nuclear warheads. Iran has no 90% grade enrichment technology and stock."

 

The is not scientifically correct. The same equipment that makes 10%, 20% EU is used to make 90% bomb grade EU. The only difference is how many centrifuges it passes through. You could even use a valve to route  UF6 through whatever paths you want. You can also use lower grade EU as starting material for higher grades.  See  IranWatch

 

POLITIFACT factcheck, (feb 18, 2015) The potential Iran nuclear agreement would limit Iran to the number of centrifuges needed for a weapon but too few for a nuclear power program. TRUE.

 

"They can’t fabricate nuclear weapons. They don’t have the core ingredients, equipment and technology."

 

This is the easy part, and they have worked on it in the past, knowledge is widely available.

 

OTH, I do agree Iran has been good at sticking to the letter of the agreement as written.

 

 

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4 hours ago, ezzra said:

"western animals" are responsible animals, unlike Iran that want to conquer the world by sending troupes and occupying Lebanon, Iraq and parts of Turkey among others...

Troupes??  Are they going to sing and dance them into submission hahahahahaha!

 

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4 hours ago, Psimbo said:

Does that include the US- the biggest exporter of arms in the world?

 

They provide weapons to Gov'ts that wantonly kill women and children on a daily basis. MAGA my backside.

Yes but you are overlooking the fact that providing 'weapons to Gov'ts that wantonly kill women and children on a daily basis' is done to protect Americas interests (aka 'saving the world') and that is all that matters to the US.  Small pox infested blanket anybody?  They're free because we care.

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42 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

Yes but you are overlooking the fact that providing 'weapons to Gov'ts that wantonly kill women and children on a daily basis' is done to protect Americas interests (aka 'saving the world') and that is all that matters to the US.  Small pox infested blanket anybody?  They're free because we care.

and that's 110 billion to Saudis and another 80 billion to UAE not to mention the ""free"" ones to Israel all in the name of protecting America's interest 555

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1 hour ago, rabas said:

 

"Uranium with minimal 90% grade enrichment can be used for manufacturing nuclear warheads. Iran has no 90% grade enrichment technology and stock."

 

The is not scientifically correct. The same equipment that makes 10%, 20% EU is used to make 90% bomb grade EU. The only difference is how many centrifuges it passes through. You could even use a valve to route  UF6 through whatever paths you want. You can also use lower grade EU as starting material for higher grades.  See  IranWatch

 

POLITIFACT factcheck, (feb 18, 2015) The potential Iran nuclear agreement would limit Iran to the number of centrifuges needed for a weapon but too few for a nuclear power program. TRUE.

 

"They can’t fabricate nuclear weapons. They don’t have the core ingredients, equipment and technology."

 

This is the easy part, and they have worked on it in the past, knowledge is widely available.

 

OTH, I do agree Iran has been good at sticking to the letter of the agreement as written.

 

 

 

To convert <5% EU to +20%EU you need more yellow cake and more centrifuges to separate U-238 and U-235.

 

Iran exported it’s stock of EU to keep the 300 kg limit for 15 years.

 

You need ten thousands of centrifuges to make nuclear weapons grade EU. The 20.000 existing centrifuges will be reduced to +/- 6.000 operating centrifuges. Impossible to achieve +90% EU with 6.000 centrifuges divided over 3 nuclear plants.

 

90% EU enrichment requires a full continuous process without re-cycling and by-passing. 

 

There’s only one nuclear facility in Iran capable of producing enrichment through uranium with plutonium.

This enrichment facility has been closed as per JCPOA deal.

 

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/foreign-policy/iran-deal

 

People suggesting Iranian nuclear 90% EU capacity to make nuclear weapons can’t prove it because you have not the core elements and equipment to manufacture it.

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