Brexit negotiations restart in person as clock ticks down

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

Correct; it's a multi national alliance.

 

Took a while, but you've got there at last.

 

Commanded by the EU. No thanks. 

[Hi from France]

10 hours ago, Lormak1 said:

Once we joined the EU they began to r@pe our country. Our seas were plundered of their fish and our industry bribed to relocate to the EU. Ridiculous health and safety and socialist laws tied our companies up in knots until they were no longer viable and could be bought for cheap by foreign competitors.

We have lived for 48 years with the EU's knee on our neck. Now we a breaking free!! We can finally breathe!

mmm second degree?

[Hi from France]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/03/boris-johnson-fishing-brexit-deal-eu-britain

 

[vinny41]

1 hour ago, Hi from France said:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/03/boris-johnson-fishing-brexit-deal-eu-britain

 

You may not be aware its in the Opinion section of The guardian which means diddly squat

its the same as someone saying that 

 

The French  must give up on fishing in British waters

[david555]

Brexit news: France warns UK fish entering EU must be BANNED if demands not met | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

Can’t use our markets! France warns UK fish entering EU must be BANNED if demands not met

FRANCE has refused to let its fishermen become "collateral victims of Brexit", with the UK warned its fish must not be able to enter the European market if access to British waters isn't granted to their own fishermen.

By PAUL WITHERS

PUBLISHED: 21:03, Thu, Dec 3, 2020 | UPDATED: 21:07, Thu, Dec 3, 2020

A post-Brexit trade deal between the UK and EU remains on a knife-edge, with the two negotiating teams working through the night in London in a frantic attempt to make a major breakthrough. Britain will fully cut ties with the bloc at the end of the Brexit transition period on December 31, but any trade deal will still have to be ratified by both the UK and EU parliaments. Fishing rights has remained a major stumbling block in post-Brexit trade negotiations, with both sides seemingly refusing to give too much ground on the crucial red line.

 

"A win-win agreement must be obtained.

"If our fishermen cannot access British waters, then British fish must not enter the European market."

 

 

more...

Edited December 4, 2020 by david555

[david555]

 (Never mind " the  Fish".... any deal that would coming to E.U.parlaiment go become  vetoed down because "Boris bill " breaking international treaty as overriding it ...... as he go table it Monday .... 

E.U.'s  MEP. ready for the "kill of negotiations" in that case ...) ????

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-live-boris-johnson-trade-deal-b1766114.html

 

Brexit news – live: Trade talks ‘at very end’ in London as UK presses ahead with breaking international law
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Andy Gregory 19 minutes ago

Talks for a Brexit trade deal in London are “at the very end”, Ireland’s foreign minister has said, warning that if an agreement cannot be struck the EU’s focus will shift very soon to a no-deal scenario despite the “huge disruption and costs” this would bring.

 

After an intense 24 hours of apparent progress, negotiations appeared to go backwards somewhat on Thursday, however EU sources reportedly dismissed UK claims that the bloc was “bringing new elements to the table at the eleventh hour” as mere “theatrics”, insisting that the same sticking points seen since February remain – those of fishing rights, state aid and governance.

 

But with just days left to secure a deal and tensions already high in Brussels, Boris Johnson’s government announced it will bring two bills in possible violation of the Brexit withdrawal agreement before the Commons next week, which it claims is necessary to prevent a border in the Irish Sea.

Michel Barnier has reportedly told EU envoys such a breach of trust would plunge the talks into irreparable “crisis”.

Edited December 4, 2020 by david555

[AlexRich]

I think we are seeing the usual EU negotiating style of last minute demands, designed to squeeze some more concessions, with France playing the “bad cop” role.

 

A tiresome game ... let’s hope it gets resolved by the end of this weekend. I’m fed up to the back teeth with Brexit. One bonus for Thailand dwellers should be a better currency rate.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I think we are seeing the usual EU negotiating style of last minute demands, designed to squeeze some more concessions, with France playing the “bad cop” role.

 

A tiresome game ... let’s hope it gets resolved by the end of this weekend. I’m fed up to the back teeth with Brexit. One bonus for Thailand dwellers should be a better currency rate.

 

 

What exactly are those last minute demands?

[AlexRich]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What exactly are those last minute demands?

No idea, but that’s what’s being reported? Apparently Barnier has been too generous? But whether this is real or just a rehearsed negotiation ploy, I’m not sure we’ll ever know.

[david555]

39 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What exactly are those last minute demands? 

And usual brexiteers claiming  "E.U. go always flat belly at last moment  .... as they always do ..." 

So did they changed tune now  ? 

Edited December 4, 2020 by david555

[Phulublub]

46 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

One bonus for Thailand dwellers should be a better currency rate.

Could you walk me through your logic on this?  No deal and the Pound will fall.  Guaranteed.

 

PH

[AlexRich]

3 hours ago, Phulublub said:

Could you walk me through your logic on this?  No deal and the Pound will fall.  Guaranteed.

 

PH

That comment was prefaced with a comment about wanting things resolved ... i.e. an agreement. Which, other things being equal, should strengthen GBP. For a Thai dweller no deal will increase the price of a Chang ... and everything else.