EVENKEEL Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I go to the beach quite often to swim. This is a local beach with a raised sea wall so when you're sitting under the trees you can't see the kids to good. You hardly ever see the parent in the water playing with the kids much less keeping an eye on them. I would never think of letting my kid play in the water without me there and she can swim well. It's the Thai style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted November 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: I go to the beach quite often to swim. This is a local beach with a raised sea wall so when you're sitting under the trees you can't see the kids to good. You hardly ever see the parent in the water playing with the kids much less keeping an eye on them. I would never think of letting my kid play in the water without me there and she can swim well. It's the Thai style. Westerners have an insular model of parenting compared to some other cultures, built on “communal “ care, as was pointed out to me in some villiages older children have responsibilities towards younger children related or not. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagfinnur Traustason Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 So, you know it´s the Thai style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said: So, you know it´s the Thai style. It's also called stupidity, carelessness and unforgivable if they drown. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dagfinnur Traustason Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, EVENKEEL said: It's also called stupidity, carelessness and unforgivable if they drown. I guess you should read RJRS1301 comment, but that is something you already should know if you are living in Thailand. Instead of insinuating that people here are stupid, don´t care and are behaving in an unforgivable way, maybe you should just learn the culture a little bit better. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said: I guess you should read RJRS1301 comment, but that is something you already should know if you are living in Thailand. Instead of insinuating that people here are stupid, don´t care and are behaving in an unforgivable way, maybe you should just learn the culture a little bit better. This isn't kids riding bikes, it's kids playing in the ocean who can't swim and many times playing alone. The ocean can behave in erratic and unforgivable ways. I stand by my comments they are acting in a stupid and unforgivable way. Seems like the upper class are more into playing with the kids. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: This isn't kids riding bikes, it's kids playing in the ocean who can't swim and many times playing alone. The ocean can behave in erratic and unforgivable ways. I stand by my comments they are acting in a stupid and unforgivable way. Seems like the upper class are more into playing with the kids. and yet after countless generations....enough kids manage to survive to perpetuate the race.....I guess it hasn't made a dent 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, tonray said: and yet after countless generations....enough kids manage to survive to perpetuate the race.....I guess it hasn't made a dent Guess you're not a parent, fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: This isn't kids riding bikes, it's kids playing in the ocean who can't swim and many times playing alone. The ocean can behave in erratic and unforgivable ways. I stand by my comments they are acting in a stupid and unforgivable way. Seems like the upper class are more into playing with the kids. Look at parents letting their kids ride motor bikes, same same. I rest my case, you see it multiple times every single day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonray Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, EVENKEEL said: Guess you're not a parent, fair enough. Try to be a parent to your kids and not to other's kids and you'll feel better. They don't need your input 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: Look at parents letting their kids ride motor bikes, same same. I rest my case, you see it multiple times every single day. I guess that doesn't bother me as much with kids riding motorbikes. Perhaps because I rode a mini-bike and a Honda 90 when I was 11 yrs old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: It's also called stupidity, carelessness and unforgivable if they drown. Only to you. To them it's Karma. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, tonray said: Try to be a parent to your kids and not to other's kids and you'll feel better. They don't need your input This is an anonymous forum to voice our opinion. I'll continue to think Thai parents are lacking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Guess you're not a parent, fair enough. and yet............................. Western parents that feed their kids too much bad food, keep their kids from going outside, make their kids afraid are IMO just as terrible as parents, though in a different way. How many Thai kids get beaten to death by their parents? Happens far too often in NZ. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: This is an anonymous forum to voice our opinion. I'll continue to think Thai parents are lacking. IMO Thai parents are far better than western parents. They give kids loads of attention, unlike western parents I know. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: It's also called stupidity, carelessness and unforgivable if they drown. Looking at your picture how would you call people who ride big bikes without helmet? Stupidity comes to my mind... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Seems like the upper class are more into playing with the kids. Not in my experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Looking at your picture how would you call people who ride big bikes without helmet? Stupidity comes to my mind... This is about kids, as for myself I've done way more stupid things than ride without a helmet. For longer distance I wear a bell helmet, around the block I wear flip flops and a ball cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: IMO Thai parents are far better than western parents. They give kids loads of attention, unlike western parents I know. Can't make comparisons as people will label you a Thai apologist. ???? Oh, and child obesity in the US is around 14 million. Irresponsible lazy parents creating a future of fatness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, bkk6060 said: Can't make comparisons as people will label you a Thai apologist. ???? Oh, and child obesity in the US is around 14 million. Irresponsible lazy parents creating a future of fatness. The same is happening right here in Thailand. Seems to be happening to parents with money. Maybe healthier to be poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Natai Beach Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: Look at parents letting their kids ride motor bikes, same same. I rest my case, you see it multiple times every single day. As a kid I swam with mates in the ocean, in pools and in rivers without mummy and daddy. Some of my friends had motorbikes. We all road our BMXs without helmets. We could roam around as long as we were home for dinner. Helicopter parenting produces mentally and physically weak kids that can not cope in the real world. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: This is an anonymous forum to voice our opinion. I'll continue to think Thai parents are lacking. I think all parents are lacking some way. It's just different in different cultures. IMO it's because we don't know what we are doing and everyone learns from scratch. No one HAS to do a uni course on parenting before having kids, and yet it's probably the most important thing anyone can do. I'd like to see compulsory parenting courses if we can't make people not have any without a licence to prove they can bring up kids properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Natai Beach said: As a kid I swam with mates in the ocean, in pools and in rivers without mummy and daddy. Some of my friends had motorbikes. We all road our BMXs without helmets. We could roam around as long as we were home for dinner. Helicopter parenting produces mentally and physically weak kids that can not cope in the real world. Well said. My western BIL won't let his 2 kids do the same things he did as a child. One is obese and the other is horrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 And people wonder why there's a generation of snow flakes appearing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: The same is happening right here in Thailand. Seems to be happening to parents with money. Maybe healthier to be poor. Not in NZ. Some poor people eat takeaways every night and are obese. Shame to see the fat kids never had a chance, IMO- diabetes and heart problems await them, IMO. Diabetes is a major health problem in NZ and going to get worse. Edited November 29, 2020 by thaibeachlovers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Natai Beach said: As a kid I swam with mates in the ocean, in pools and in rivers without mummy and daddy. Some of my friends had motorbikes. We all road our BMXs without helmets. We could roam around as long as we were home for dinner. Helicopter parenting produces mentally and physically weak kids that can not cope in the real world. I grew up much the same way in the country. We swam in canals, gone all day alone or with friends at a very young age. No seat belts, no kid seats. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Looking at your picture how would you call people who ride big bikes without helmet? Stupidity comes to my mind... Generally people that ride big bikes wear more safety gear than others and are more responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said: I grew up much the same way in the country. We swam in canals, gone all day alone or with friends at a very young age. No seat belts, no kid seats. All boomers grew up much like that, but the grand/ great grand kids are protected from all harm, except obesity. What went wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Natai Beach Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: I grew up much the same way in the country. We swam in canals, gone all day alone or with friends at a very young age. No seat belts, no kid seats. Er, ok. You have Thai parents? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Salerno said: And people wonder why there's a generation of snow flakes appearing. I agree about the snowflakes, but what I see are parents who take their kids to the sea and don't bother to watch them. Chances are they can't swim and who wouldn't want to play with their kids. We made sure ours can swim well but the ocean is unforgiving and not to be tempted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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