ourmanflint Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, DonaldBattles said: It is my opinion without proof that these two ladies entered Tachilek Burma illegally. They stayed in a Burmese hotel together for 6 days before they returned illegally. One went to Chiang Mai and the other checked in to the Bangkok Chiang Rai Hospital and tested positive for the Covid 19 virus. I believe they contacted the virus in Burma. Bangkok Chiang Rai is a very expensive private hospital. Without big money you can't stay there. I suspect that they were in Burma on a business trip that lasted 6 days. Except they crossed over Moei River in Tak not Tachilek according to press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBattles Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ourmanflint said: Except they crossed over Moei River in Tak not Tachilek according to press Which press do you want to believe. Tak is a long way from Chiang Rai. Why would they go there and then come to Chiang Rai to check into the hospital.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Travolta Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said: Good. Now throw them in jail and lock away the keys! Their stupidity could lead to potential deaths now.... haha - jail them and lock away the keys? For something potential? oh my days please stop it now. My sides just cant take anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourmanflint Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, DonaldBattles said: Which press do you want to believe. Tak is a long way from Chiang Rai. Why would they go there and then come to Chiang Rai to check into the hospital.. Yes, but they were working in Myawaddy which is a long way from chiang rai as well, why would they lie about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsall Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Blumpie said: This is where things may get out of control. I'm sorry to say but this thing is far more virulent now and spreads like crazy. Source? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike k Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, KhaoNiaw said: They didn't go through an official crossing - went cross-country and then over the river. They were even taking selfies and posting on Facebook about it. That should get them prison time 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Still waiting for the announcement that once again pure Thais have been infected by foreigners. Maybe it is the cynic in me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTH001 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Ireland32 said: It’s open for trade not even testing truck drivers really 250 drivers There is frequent trade via boat service at ChiangSaen too, saw it with my own eyes 10 days ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphus Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Well, as COVID is yet again in Thailand, they might as well open the borders, as it won't matter in a few weeks time. So open up and let's get the tourism trade started again. hahaha 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, Kelsall said: Source? Google. The problem with this pandemic is we are filled with half-truths, unproven theories, even from health care professionals. The whole world wonders why Thailand is doing so well. They have effectively been locked down since this all started and very strict, keeping these other strains out. And there are mutated strains - remember, they mutate slowly which is a good thing! In a year or two we will know the whole truth as to why it's done so well. But you have to wonder why everyone the world round is doing so terrible and Thailand is doing so well. I don't buy so much into "the government is fudging the numbers". Now they do fudge the numbers on the economy, but I doubt they are doing it in this case. They are pursuing bubble dreams with China and want to keep the rates low. Of course the bubble only exists in their minds, nobody else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 51 minutes ago, Purdey said: Still waiting for the announcement that once again pure Thais have been infected by foreigners. Maybe it is the cynic in me. Burmese are foreigners. It's all inter-related. Some white guy in Chang-Mai. Not us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark131v Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 My wife has just mentioned her mum and some other family members are very unwell with a cough and a fever, I asked if she was going to get a covid test done: 'no need because it's the cold season she always get's sick due to the cold weather' That in a nutshell is the Thai response, nobody gets a test either through lack of finance or fear of being locked in quarantine rather than working Hospitals are quick to blame covid type s&s as a cold, flu, dengue, pneumonia, anything but covid I believe people who die are not routinely tested. That's the reason for low number... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Posts referring to the coronavirus/COVID as a/the "plague" have been removed, as that is an incorrect description. Coronavirus is the virus that causes COVID, the resulting respiratory illness, which is considered a world pandemic at this point. However, a "plague" is an entirely different kind of bacterial (as opposed to viral) illness. https://www.dictionary.com/e/is-the-coronavirus-a-plague/ Quote And perhaps, as you’ve followed the news or talked to people about COVID-19, you have even heard the coronavirus called a “plague.” No, the new coronavirus is not the plague.... The terms the plague or just plague (without the or a) refer to an infectious disease caused by a bacterium spread from rats to humans by means of flea bites. ... We make the distinction between the coronavirus vs. plague because, in a time of crisis and uncertainty, it can be important to use words carefully and sensitively, speaking about matters accurately and ensuring we don’t cause any panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Thai citizens working in Myanmar?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBattles Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: Thai citizens working in Myanmar?!?!? These were 2 working girls. They have been arrested by Thai Immigration. The ladyboy was also arrested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbj2 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, mark131v said: My wife has just mentioned her mum and some other family members are very unwell with a cough and a fever, I asked if she was going to get a covid test done: 'no need because it's the cold season she always get's sick due to the cold weather' That in a nutshell is the Thai response, nobody gets a test either through lack of finance or fear of being locked in quarantine rather than working Hospitals are quick to blame covid type s&s as a cold, flu, dengue, pneumonia, anything but covid I believe people who die are not routinely tested. That's the reason for low number... I am no longer living in Thailand but I see loads of my western friends praising the Thai govt for having largely avoided the Covid-19 pandemic hitting Thailand. Personally, I'm not convinced that they have. I'm much more inclined to believe that it has been swept under the carpet. After all, if someone dies of pneumonia or a similar respiratory disease and you don't test for Covid - that's it they died of pneumonia! Given that there were direct flights to Chiang Mai until well into the pandemic, it would be astonishing if there had been no transmission of the disease AT ALL. Simply not believable! The other thing that I find slightly worrying is when flights resumed, on the first flight out of Thailand, two passengers were found to have Covid-19 and when some guest workers were re-patriated, loads tested positive on arrival. If the level of infection in Thailand is as low as the government claims, that is statistically highly improbable! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBattles Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: Thai citizens working in Myanmar?!?!? To the best I can learn all persons entering Thailand must quarantined 14 days and must have a health insurance policy that covers them against COVID. This means the border at Mae Sai uses these rules. Does any one have different information especially about the crossing at Mae Sai? Three people have arrested for illegal crossing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, mark131v said: I believe people who die are not routinely tested. That's the reason for low number... That would mean that the number of deaths in Thailand has been much higher this year than in years before. Is that so? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phulublub Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, paulbj2 said: I am no longer living in Thailand but I see loads of my western friends praising the Thai govt for having largely avoided the Covid-19 pandemic hitting Thailand. Personally, I'm not convinced that they have. I'm much more inclined to believe that it has been swept under the carpet. After all, if someone dies of pneumonia or a similar respiratory disease and you don't test for Covid - that's it they died of pneumonia! Given that there were direct flights to Chiang Mai until well into the pandemic, it would be astonishing if there had been no transmission of the disease AT ALL. Simply not believable! The other thing that I find slightly worrying is when flights resumed, on the first flight out of Thailand, two passengers were found to have Covid-19 and when some guest workers were re-patriated, loads tested positive on arrival. If the level of infection in Thailand is as low as the government claims, that is statistically highly improbable! But it is not just deaths though, is it? Are the hospitals overrun? Even if there is underreporting, do you honestly think that in the era of social media (and when have you not seen a Thai with their head stuck in their mobile?) the Government could keep widespread infection a secret for ten months? PH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, hotchilli said: Initiated by bars girls... who'd have thought that. I thought it was the evil farangs that caused this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbj2 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Phulublub said: But it is not just deaths though, is it? Are the hospitals overrun? Even if there is underreporting, do you honestly think that in the era of social media (and when have you not seen a Thai with their head stuck in their mobile?) the Government could keep widespread infection a secret for ten months? PH I ran the death figures for the UK and from the freely publicly available death registration data, it's really easy to see that the British govt have been lying through their back teeth or rather manipulating the figures to make them look better. I would be very surprised if the Thai government haven't been doing the same. It is as Trump pointed out "if you don't test, you don't have cases". I gather testing in Thailand is at a very low level indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phulublub Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, paulbj2 said: I ran the death figures for the UK and from the freely publicly available death registration data, it's really easy to see that the British govt have been lying through their back teeth or rather manipulating the figures to make them look better. I would be very surprised if the Thai government haven't been doing the same. It is as Trump pointed out "if you don't test, you don't have cases". I gather testing in Thailand is at a very low level indeed. Once again; it is not just the deaths. Are UK hospitals close to breaking point? (Yes) Are Thailand's hospitals close to breaking pont? (No). Maybe this is because Thailand is a country with world leading medical facilities, and plenty of them...oh PH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayPutThai Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 14 hours ago, Traubert said: After ten months? Who can confirm that this did not happen the last months? I'm really <deleted> of to hear that Thai can pass the border without Quarantine, while valid non O/OA and f... of what else Visa tourist has to pay a lot of stupid isolation jail where even a beer is not allowed. I stay in my home in TH, finally as usually and have less contact to public people. Once out of the house I wear mask, keep distance and wash my hands. Something what I miss more and more from Thai People. Feeling slowly that I'm the only idiot who follow the rule. I need to go to SG next and don't know when and how I can come back to my home in TH! Anyway I do, because of such story like this two chicks and I believe it happen much more often in Thailand. Even if people die on any reason, nobody check if that could have also a root cause of covid. Old People just die because of heart insufficiency as usually. Sure - finally Yes. Who take care or want to know? I have only one wish to a Jeanny. Push me back 20 years of my life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatfarmer Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 17 hours ago, nycjoe said: You can wade across the river. You can walk over the ridge. I would be surprised if this is the first incident in 10 months, albeit the first reported incident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 20 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: "Both had been working in Myanmar and seemingly returned to Thailand without undergoing the mandatory quarantine period in a state facility - an investigation has been launched into how this was allowed to happen". Yeah, I love how COVID is never in Thailand unless brought in from elsewhere, according to the Thais. Thailand is the only country in the world that somewhat miraculously figured it all out. Thailand! And many Farangs believe it. To those saying this might lead to an outbreak, I have a simple answer: no it won't. If they don't test, there are no confirmed cases. So no outbreak. Thai logic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatfarmer Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 15 hours ago, poohy said: How on earth do you close or patrol a land border? i live about 14 km from the Burmese Dansingkorn border crossing thats closed or patrolled at least However there's dozens of side roads tracks fields you can walk through (no know the way cigarettes and whisky and other "stuff" gets in) I seriously doubt these 2 girls are the only ones doing this Exactly. This must have been going on continually. For some reason, this incident was discovered and reported. Might it have been because the villains in question had the good sense to get tested? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 10 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said: Thai citizens working in Myanmar?!?!? Of course. I know two Thai friends who have (legit) businesses in Myanmar and travel back and forth frequently; or at least they did before Covid. Just like any other country there are people in Myanmar with a lot of money and there is a lot of business that is conducted daily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatfarmer Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 11 hours ago, mark131v said: My wife has just mentioned her mum and some other family members are very unwell with a cough and a fever, I asked if she was going to get a covid test done: 'no need because it's the cold season she always get's sick due to the cold weather' That in a nutshell is the Thai response, nobody gets a test either through lack of finance or fear of being locked in quarantine rather than working Hospitals are quick to blame covid type s&s as a cold, flu, dengue, pneumonia, anything but covid I believe people who die are not routinely tested. That's the reason for low number... "...she always get's sick due to the cold weather." Still in the middle/dark ages. The germ theory of disease has made little penetration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a977 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 So all these Thais sneaking back into Thailand via the backdoor so to speak. So where's the army and the border patrol police, Oh! that's right there all in Bangkok trying to save all the retired Generals and Hi-so's from the peaceful demonstrations of youth, which incidentally would've have come about if the election had of been fair and above board 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 What's funny is that the four women were wearing masks during their crossing, at least they were in the photos they posted on FB. All four left the bar scene in Myanmar owing to the growing COVID infection rate. Two were headed for Pattaya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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