TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 7 hours ago, simple1 said: Barr has resigned... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/14/us/politics/william-barr-attorney-general.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20201214&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta®i_id=89135733&segment_id=46934&user_id=1fe61b5ff8415d389c86dd3545205a7e This AG was a real lulu... Quote Mr. Barr brought the Justice Department closer to the White House than any attorney general in a half-century. Defying the distance that federal law enforcement officials have typically maintained from campaign politics, Mr. Barr spent the months leading up to the election echoing Mr. Trump’s unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud. He also told an interviewer that the country would be “irrevocably committed to the socialist path” if the president were not re-elected. But at this point, you really have to wonder, what kind of schemes Trump might have in mind for the Justice Department during his final month in office. So who's the new acting AG as Trump gets ready to depart? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_A._Rosen On February 19, 2019, President Donald Trump announced his intention to nominate Rosen for the position of United States Deputy Attorney General, succeeding Rod Rosenstein upon his departure from the Department of Justice. He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on May 16 by a vote of 52–45. ... His nomination to become the second-highest law enforcement official was unusual, as Rosen had no previous prosecutorial experience.[6] Attorney General William Barr had urged Trump to choose Rosen as his deputy.[10] Rosen was sworn in on May 22, 2019." And what's he shown an interest in in the past? In June 2019, Rosen sent a letter to New York state prosecutors inquiring into the case of Paul Manafort and indicating that he would be monitoring where Manafort would be held in custody. Shortly thereafter, federal prison officials informed New York state prosecutors that Manafort would not be held in Rikers Island. Current and former prosecutors described this decision as unusual, because most individuals held in custody while awaiting federal trial are held in Rikers Island, a prison with a reputation for violence and mismanagement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 As I f things didn't seem nuttie enough already. Then this came out: https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/An-ex-cop-held-an-A-C-repairman-at-gunpoint-over-15807503.php 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, pegman said: As I f things didn't seem nuttie enough already. Then this came out: https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/An-ex-cop-held-an-A-C-repairman-at-gunpoint-over-15807503.php That's not just nutty... It's DANGEROUS... A private citizen (fired police captain) running around accosting an innocent party with a gun. I wonder if Rudy had some affidavits relating to the air con guy's case??? Meanwhile, no mention in the article of whether the fired police captain and alleged ADW assaulter was legally entitled to be carrying a gun. But this is Texas, so perhaps, that's beside the point. Hope they put this guy away for a LONG time... He deserves it! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, pegman said: As I f things didn't seem nuttie enough already. Then this came out: https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/An-ex-cop-held-an-A-C-repairman-at-gunpoint-over-15807503.php And thus the danger of posting fake information on social media outlets, sharing them with others, and actually believing them. Stunning.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 On 12/15/2020 at 1:46 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said: This AG was a real lulu... But at this point, you really have to wonder, what kind of schemes Trump might have in mind for the Justice Department during his final month in office. So who's the new acting AG as Trump gets ready to depart? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_A._Rosen On February 19, 2019, President Donald Trump announced his intention to nominate Rosen for the position of United States Deputy Attorney General, succeeding Rod Rosenstein upon his departure from the Department of Justice. He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on May 16 by a vote of 52–45. ... His nomination to become the second-highest law enforcement official was unusual, as Rosen had no previous prosecutorial experience.[6] Attorney General William Barr had urged Trump to choose Rosen as his deputy.[10] Rosen was sworn in on May 22, 2019." And what's he shown an interest in in the past? In June 2019, Rosen sent a letter to New York state prosecutors inquiring into the case of Paul Manafort and indicating that he would be monitoring where Manafort would be held in custody. Shortly thereafter, federal prison officials informed New York state prosecutors that Manafort would not be held in Rikers Island. Current and former prosecutors described this decision as unusual, because most individuals held in custody while awaiting federal trial are held in Rikers Island, a prison with a reputation for violence and mismanagement. Actually, it looks like even a lowlife like Rosen might have too much integrity for Trump: Trump asking about special prosecutor for Hunter Biden Trump is still weighing his options, considering whether to pressure Rosen to make the special counsel appointment or, if needed, to replace the acting attorney general with someone more likely to carry out his wishes. He has even asked his team of lawyers, including personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, to look into whether the president has the power to appoint a special counsel himself. A key question will be whether Rosen can stand up to presidential pressure — and potentially withering attacks — in the waning weeks of the Trump administration. Trump mulls pressing acting attorney general for special-counsel probe into Hunter Biden - MarketWatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kelsall Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 IMO there will be a special prosecutor(s) to look into this whole mess. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Kelsall said: IMO there will be a special prosecutor(s) to look into this whole mess. Before, when Trump supporters were betting on the courts to back Trump. they were essentially betting against the rationality of the legal system. We know how that turned out. Surprise, surprise. But because you're counting on the irrationality of Trump, the odds of your prediction coming true are a lot more favorable. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 11 hours ago, Kelsall said: IMO there will be a special prosecutor(s) to look into this whole mess. Do you mean the mess of a fair, clean election? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 12 hours ago, Kelsall said: IMO there will be a special prosecutor(s) to look into this whole mess. Agreed! Barr should be investigated for obstruction of justice and lying to congress for his heavily redacted version of the Mueller report. Can't wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 18 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: That's not just nutty... It's DANGEROUS... A private citizen (fired police captain) running around accosting an innocent party with a gun. I wonder if Rudy had some affidavits relating to the air con guy's case??? Meanwhile, no mention in the article of whether the fired police captain and alleged ADW assaulter was legally entitled to be carrying a gun. But this is Texas, so perhaps, that's beside the point. Hope they put this guy away for a LONG time... He deserves it! I haven't been in Texas for awhile but I thought it was a requirement to carry a gun. This guy is lucky he wasn't murdered like Ahmaud Arbery. The black man in Georgia shot by a former cop for walking in the neighbourhood while black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 18 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: And thus the danger of posting fake information on social media outlets, sharing them with others, and actually believing them. Stunning.... A Hollywood screen writer couldn't make this kind of stuff up. Same with the militiamen charged today in Michigan for plotting to kidnap the governor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 41 minutes ago, pegman said: A Hollywood screen writer couldn't make this kind of stuff up. Same with the militiamen charged today in Michigan for plotting to kidnap the governor. Or this. Who would have thought supposedly patriotic Americans would do this...or even support it! Beyond belief. Trump has changed our country for the worst. Obviously. https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/17/joyce-warshaw-former-kansas-mayor-mask-mandate-threats-sot-vpx-ebof.cnn Mayor resigns after receiving threats for backing mask mandate Dodge City, Kansas, Mayor Joyce Warsaw said she stepped down from her position after she received threats for supporting a mask mandate amid the Covid-19 pandemic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Or this. Who would have thought supposedly patriotic Americans would do this...or even support it! Beyond belief. Trump has changed our country for the worst. Obviously. https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/17/joyce-warshaw-former-kansas-mayor-mask-mandate-threats-sot-vpx-ebof.cnn Mayor resigns after receiving threats for backing mask mandate Dodge City, Kansas, Mayor Joyce Warsaw said she stepped down from her position after she received threats for supporting a mask mandate amid the Covid-19 pandemic. Im sure trump has tweeted that is is unacceptable and must stop. Maybe not 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Sujo said: Im sure trump has tweeted that is is unacceptable and must stop. Maybe not More like "Stand Back and Stand By!". Terrible president. Sad some think otherwise. Luckily, some are making the move: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/14/michigan-congressman-gop-mitchell-445234 Quote Michigan congressman quits GOP over Trump’s election fights “I’ve had enough,” said Rep. Paul Mitchell, who is becoming an independent in the final weeks of his legislative career. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/12/17/leaving-republican-party-disgraceful-assault-on-election-column/3922686001/ Quote The GOP has ransacked our Constitution and attempted a coup. The Republican Party of Lincoln is no more. I'm switching my registration to independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2020 Im also sure hes been a bit busy giving daily briefings to the publuc about covid safety and the vaccine rollout. On top of that the new russian hacking is a major national security issue. Im sure hes onto it. Whats todays tee time? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 When threatened with legal action for spreading false information, Faux News backed down from its nonsense: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lou-dobbs-airs-segment-refuting-212726652.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 4 hours ago, heybruce said: When threatened with legal action for spreading false information, Faux News backed down from its nonsense: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lou-dobbs-airs-segment-refuting-212726652.html Thanks for that. Quote Smartmatic demanded a retraction “with the same intensity and level of coverage that you used to defame the company in the first place,” including that it be published on multiple occasions and across network platforms. Hardly the same intensity yet, but that was to be expected. Too little too late I'm afraid though, the seed has been sown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsall Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 12/2/2020 at 5:11 AM, webfact said: Barr says no sign of major U.S. vote fraud as Trump keeps up struggling legal fight Barr can say what he wants, but this from the Washington Post: "Biden will start his presidency with nearly half the country believing he is not the legitimate occupant of the White House." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-voter-trust/2020/12/20/00282aa6-407a-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Kelsall said: Barr can say what he wants, but this from the Washington Post: "Biden will start his presidency with nearly half the country believing he is not the legitimate occupant of the White House." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-voter-trust/2020/12/20/00282aa6-407a-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html Well, then, I guess the alleged fraud must be nearly true since almost half the population believes it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Kelsall said: Barr can say what he wants, but this from the Washington Post: "Biden will start his presidency with nearly half the country believing he is not the legitimate occupant of the White House." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-voter-trust/2020/12/20/00282aa6-407a-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html Not sure you surprise or just ignorant of the fact that there will always be minorities and majorities in a democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2020 Donald Trump Attacks Brad Raffensperger's Brother—He Doesn't Have One President Donald Trump took to Twitter on Tuesday night to criticize Republican officials in Georgia, including Governor Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger for failing to investigate unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in the state. The president also criticized Raffensperger's brother, saying he works for China. However, Raffensperger doesn't have a brother, as many social media users were quick to point out. Donald Trump Attacks Brad Raffensperger's Brother—He Doesn't Have One (newsweek.com) 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jcsmith Posted December 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 6:45 PM, Kelsall said: Barr can say what he wants, but this from the Washington Post: "Biden will start his presidency with nearly half the country believing he is not the legitimate occupant of the White House." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-voter-trust/2020/12/20/00282aa6-407a-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html 83% of the country believes in an invisible man in the sky is listening to their hopes and dreams... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 What is surprising (well, to me at least) is that they did not manufacture some sort of situation to justify the voter fraud claims. With the likes of Roger Stone and Bannon in his circle, well, that's what they do. Or perhaps a firebrand apprentice (no pun intended) of theirs. It's what Lee Atwater would have done. Or Roger Ailes. Maybe Stone realizes he's on thin ice. Perhaps this level of the Black Arts is a thing of the past, the filth of the Nixon CREEP creeps gone: if you don't know what I'm getting at here's a good place to start https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/07/11/a-short-history-of-campaign-dirty-tricks-before-twitter-and-facebook/ If they were going to do it they'd have done it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted December 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, bendejo said: What is surprising (well, to me at least) is that they did not manufacture some sort of situation to justify the voter fraud claims. With the likes of Roger Stone and Bannon in his circle, well, that's what they do. Or perhaps a firebrand apprentice (no pun intended) of theirs. It's what Lee Atwater would have done. Or Roger Ailes. Maybe Stone realizes he's on thin ice. Perhaps this level of the Black Arts is a thing of the past, the filth of the Nixon CREEP creeps gone: if you don't know what I'm getting at here's a good place to start https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/07/11/a-short-history-of-campaign-dirty-tricks-before-twitter-and-facebook/ If they were going to do it they'd have done it by now. The truth is that Trump doesn't need to manufacture anything to get the usual suckers to believe his lies. He only needs to open his big gob or to tweet, and it works. Why make it more complicated when it is not necessary? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2020 Third and final Georgia audit rejects Trump fraud claims and confirms Biden victory A signature audit in Georgia has yet again ruled out the allegations of fraud or rigging levelled by President Donald Trump, confirming Joe Biden’s victory in the key state for the third time. Georgia’s Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger released a statement saying that the signature review in Cobb County found that the elections were not fraudulent and had a 99.99 per cent accuracy rate when it came to performing correct signature verification procedures. Mr Biden won the county by over 12,000 votes. Third and final Georgia audit rejects Trump fraud claims and confirms Biden victory | The Independent 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, placeholder said: Third and final Georgia audit rejects Trump fraud claims and confirms Biden victory A signature audit in Georgia has yet again ruled out the allegations of fraud or rigging levelled by President Donald Trump, confirming Joe Biden’s victory in the key state for the third time. Georgia’s Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger released a statement saying that the signature review in Cobb County found that the elections were not fraudulent and had a 99.99 per cent accuracy rate when it came to performing correct signature verification procedures. Mr Biden won the county by over 12,000 votes. Third and final Georgia audit rejects Trump fraud claims and confirms Biden victory | The Independent Trump's blasting out tweets claiming voter fraud in GA. Actually, in all swing states. Sad some fall for this BS and give him money. I read Trump's super PAC has sent out over 600 emails requesting donations to help the dems from 'stealing' the election. Suckers... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 7:45 PM, Kelsall said: Barr can say what he wants, but this from the Washington Post: "Biden will start his presidency with nearly half the country believing he is not the legitimate occupant of the White House." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-voter-trust/2020/12/20/00282aa6-407a-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html Which indicates fake news is alive and well. Republicans believe it, dems dont. Why would you be surprised. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) On 12/24/2020 at 6:45 PM, Kelsall said: Barr can say what he wants, but this from the Washington Post: "Biden will start his presidency with nearly half the country believing he is not the legitimate occupant of the White House." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-voter-trust/2020/12/20/00282aa6-407a-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html I wonder where Raffenberger's brother stands on the issue. It seems to me that an imaginary problem would have lots of imaginary supporters. Edited December 31, 2020 by placeholder 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 9:45 PM, Kelsall said: Barr can say what he wants, but this from the Washington Post: "Biden will start his presidency with nearly half the country believing he is not the legitimate occupant of the White House." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-voter-trust/2020/12/20/00282aa6-407a-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html it's a shame trump and his enablers won't be serving jail time for creating such divisiveness in the US i.e. acting contrary to national security, in breach of his Oath of Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 7:45 PM, Kelsall said: Barr can say what he wants, but this from the Washington Post: "Biden will start his presidency with nearly half the country believing he is not the legitimate occupant of the White House." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-voter-trust/2020/12/20/00282aa6-407a-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html the number of people who believe a proposition in no way attests to the truth thereof. need evidence, not affidavits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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