U.S. prosecutors investigating potential White House 'bribery-for-pardon' scheme

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Proboscis said:

As stated in my other answer, President Ford opened the door for the possibity of pardoning someone before conviction or even charging by pardoning former president Nixon before he was charged. Since no one thought to challenge that at the time, that created legal precedence.

 

So it does not even matter if they are ever convicted.

 

Nevertheless, there is nothing to stop such a pardon being challenged in court.

 

That Ford pardoned Nixon before indictment/trial set a precedence for other Presidents to do likewise, but it can’t be claimed as a legal precedence since it has never been upheld in in court and/or the courts have never had the chance to decide if they may override.

[stevenl]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

Just because it wasn't challenged back then, doesn't mean it couldn't be challenged now. I don't think that a precedent without Supreme Court backing is much of a precedent.

 

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nevertheless, there is nothing to stop such a pardon being challenged in court.

 

That Ford pardoned Nixon before indictment/trial set a precedence for other Presidents to do likewise, but it can’t be claimed as a legal precedence since it has never been upheld in in court and/or the courts have never had the chance to decide if they may override.

True, but with the present SC it will probably be more about what Trump can get away with than about the law. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

 

True, but with the present SC it will probably be more about what Trump can get away with than about the law. 

At least one SC Justice is likely to resign in the new year.

 

 

[candide]

Drain the swamp! ????

Ivanka Trump questioned over inauguration funds 'misuse'

 

"Earlier this year, Mr Racine said: "District law requires non-profits to use their funds for their stated public purpose, not to benefit private individuals or companies."

His lawsuit is seeking to recover more than $1m in alleged improper payments made to the Trump International Hotel during the week of the inauguration."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55177966

[bendejo]

On 12/3/2020 at 6:16 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

At least one SC Justice is likely to resign in the new year.

That is probably the most optimistic post I've ever seen.

 

 

[mtls2005]

Elliot Broidy, and Abbe Lowell and jared kushner have been named as persons of itnerest.

 

Unidentified beneficiary sought clemency for conviction on tax crimes.

 

Broidy is a millionaire and trump fundraiser. 

 

Lowell is ivanka and jared's lawyer.

 

jared's dad was convicted of many crimes including tax evasion. 

[Eric Loh]

16 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Elliot Broidy, and Abbe Lowell and jared kushner have been named as persons of itnerest.

 

Unidentified beneficiary sought clemency for conviction on tax crimes.

 

Broidy is a millionaire and trump fundraiser. 

 

Lowell is ivanka and jared's lawyer.

 

jared's dad was convicted of many crimes including tax evasion. 

The success rate of lawsuits against Trump’s family is about 80% last 4 years. Odds heavily against them in this latest legal case. The crime family will pay their dues. 

[FritsSikkink]

On ‎12‎/‎2‎/‎2020 at 10:43 AM, bendejo said:

So all this is a tacit admission that all his kids, including son-in-law, and Rudy are criminals.

What are their crimes?  They should have to allocute, like Flynn did.

 

Read a bit more, then you would know