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UK watchdog studies 'range anxiety' in electric vehicle charging

 

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An electric car is seen at a charging point at Halfords in Rugby, Britain, November 19, 2020. REUTERS/Molly Darlington/File Photo

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's competition regulator said on Wednesday it would study whether the fast-growing electric vehicle charging sector worked well in helping drivers deal with "range anxiety", or the worry about not being able to find a chargepoint.

 

Research showed range anxiety was a key concern for many consumers and ensuring easy access to chargepoints was key to persuading drivers to switch to electric vehicles, the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) said.

 

Britain will ban new petrol and diesel vehicles from 2030 to help cut greenhouse gas emissions.

 

There are almost 20,000 vehicle chargepoints, up from around 1,500 in 2011, although more will be needed in the future as this is the only way to power electric vehicles, the CMA said.

 

"Being able to easily stop off at a petrol station is a standard part of a journey and consumers must trust that electric chargepoints will provide a similarly straight-forward service," said CMA CEO Andrea Coscelli.

 

The CMA will look at how to develop a competitive sector while also attracting private investment to help the sector grow, and ensure drivers get the best service from chargepoints.

 

The CMA said it would consider "how to ensure the sector works well for people now and in the future, which will help to build trust in the service and address any competition issues."

 

The review will be completed within a year and look at the supply of chargepoints for plug-in hybrid and all-electric passenger electric cars and light vans.

 

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2 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I do not like them.

The technology is not perfected when a person cannot drive from Los Angeles to Vegas without stopping to charge it for 30 minutes or more.  

 

If that is the benchmark for perfection, then the tech has already been perfected. The long range versions of Tesla has a range that exceeds 500km.
 

If you want to stop and charge, the new V3 superchargers can add almost 300km of range in only 15 min. Most normal people want a 15 min break every 3 hours or so on road trips. So it really isn’t intrusive at all.

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1 hour ago, madhav said:

If that is the benchmark for perfection, then the tech has already been perfected. The long range versions of Tesla has a range that exceeds 500km.
 

If you want to stop and charge, the new V3 superchargers can add almost 300km of range in only 15 min. Most normal people want a 15 min break every 3 hours or so on road trips. So it really isn’t intrusive at all.

 

I think there'll plenty of break time waiting in line to get a charge...

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8 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I think there'll plenty of break time waiting in line to get a charge...

Various European countries are literally outlawing the sale of petrol and diesel cars beyond a certain date. 2025 in the UK if I recall correctly. On top of this others are providing huge financial incentives to purchase BEV and taxing the hell out of fossil cars. In China there it is extremely expensive to register fossil fuel cars but free for the BEV. 
 

In the not to distant future you’ll likely have a hard time finding a diesel station! And likely have to wait in line!

 

Of course Thailand is heavily invested in ICE based cars and automotive parts industry. They will drag their feet as long as possible. I’d imagine it would be quite expensive to switch over to BEV production. I see literally zero incentives at a consumer level for BEV, in fact quite the opposite. They still insist on huge import taxes on anything but Chinese made BEV. And even these Chinese imports, such as the MG ZS EV. If you check overseas prices, is still 20% cheaper to buy in Australia than in Thailand. So someone is still marking up the price or charging excess taxes.

 

Lack of incentives is quite sad but understandable considering how things work here and how easy it is to hand over brown envelopes to ‘influence’ things.
 

Anyhow regarding any potential issues, I think there are far more intelligent people than us who are preparing and planning for these kind of situations (such as waiting for a rapid charger). The fact of the matter is though that the vast vast majority of people stick to a common routine 99% of their lives. They charge their battery at home while they sleep, go to work, go shopping during the day etc.

 

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41 minutes ago, madhav said:

Various European countries are literally outlawing the sale of petrol and diesel cars beyond a certain date. 2025 in the UK if I recall correctly. On top of this others are providing huge financial incentives to purchase BEV and taxing the hell out of fossil cars. In China there it is extremely expensive to register fossil fuel cars but free for the BEV. 
 

In the not to distant future you’ll likely have a hard time finding a diesel station! And likely have to wait in line!

 

Of course Thailand is heavily invested in ICE based cars and automotive parts industry. They will drag their feet as long as possible. I’d imagine it would be quite expensive to switch over to BEV production. I see literally zero incentives at a consumer level for BEV, in fact quite the opposite. They still insist on huge import taxes on anything but Chinese made BEV. And even these Chinese imports, such as the MG ZS EV. If you check overseas prices, is still 20% cheaper to buy in Australia than in Thailand. So someone is still marking up the price or charging excess taxes.

 

Lack of incentives is quite sad but understandable considering how things work here and how easy it is to hand over brown envelopes to ‘influence’ things.
 

Anyhow regarding any potential issues, I think there are far more intelligent people than us who are preparing and planning for these kind of situations (such as waiting for a rapid charger). The fact of the matter is though that the vast vast majority of people stick to a common routine 99% of their lives. They charge their battery at home while they sleep, go to work, go shopping during the day etc.

 

 

Why do you assume people more intelligent than us are preparing and planning?

 

Where is all the electricity to charge all the cars going to come from, windmills?

 

Yes, they will make it extremely expensive to own ANY car. Once again the left will punish to poor under the guise of saving the world.

 

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2 hours ago, madhav said:

Various European countries are literally outlawing the sale of petrol and diesel cars beyond a certain date. 2025 in the UK if I recall correctly. On top of this others are providing huge financial incentives to purchase BEV and taxing the hell out of fossil cars. In China there it is extremely expensive to register fossil fuel cars but free for the BEV. 
 

In the not to distant future you’ll likely have a hard time finding a diesel station! And likely have to wait in line!

 

Of course Thailand is heavily invested in ICE based cars and automotive parts industry. They will drag their feet as long as possible. I’d imagine it would be quite expensive to switch over to BEV production. I see literally zero incentives at a consumer level for BEV, in fact quite the opposite. They still insist on huge import taxes on anything but Chinese made BEV. And even these Chinese imports, such as the MG ZS EV. If you check overseas prices, is still 20% cheaper to buy in Australia than in Thailand. So someone is still marking up the price or charging excess taxes.

 

Lack of incentives is quite sad but understandable considering how things work here and how easy it is to hand over brown envelopes to ‘influence’ things.
 

Anyhow regarding any potential issues, I think there are far more intelligent people than us who are preparing and planning for these kind of situations (such as waiting for a rapid charger). The fact of the matter is though that the vast vast majority of people stick to a common routine 99% of their lives. They charge their battery at home while they sleep, go to work, go shopping during the day etc.

 

I'm wondering when light weight solar panels (perhaps under a 'mask') will cover the roof of the car to provide continuous daytime charging/re-charging?

 

My guess is that in the near future there will be several such innovations, within the vehicles and outside of the vehicles. 

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2 hours ago, madhav said:

Various European countries are literally outlawing the sale of petrol and diesel cars beyond a certain date. 2025 in the UK if I recall correctly.

According to the OP -

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Britain will ban new petrol and diesel vehicles from 2030 to help cut greenhouse gas emissions.

 

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16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Britain will ban new petrol and diesel vehicles from 2030 to help cut greenhouse gas emissions.

Good step in the right direction .

That leaves more 9 yrs to install the necessary infrastructure .

But what about the big trucks ?

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Wrong wording - Britian "Wants" to ban ...

And this is just new car sales

Pipe dream - As if they could build the infrastructure in 9 years - 555

And all the cars and trucks which are still on the road will require gasoline and diesel.

Someone is off their Meds

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In Canada, the CBC did a test on an Electric car and its ability for long distance, and it

basically failed. I will not be buying any electric vehicle until the vehicle can go

1000 kms on a charge.  Also I heard that some Tesla vehicles have suspension problems.

   The issue of fast charge stations should be closely watched around the world as I think

the reality is way different than the hopeful dreams of the Electric car developers and

the green peoples dreams.

Geezer

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