snoop1130 11,898 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 EU criticises 'hasty' UK approval of COVID-19 vaccine By Francesco Guarascio FILE PHOTO: A dose of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) vaccination of BioNTech and Pfizer is pictured in this undated handout photo, as Britain became the first western country to approve a COVID-19 vaccine, in Mainz, Germany. BioNTech SE 2020, all rights reserved/Handout via REUTERS BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union criticised Britain’s rapid approval of Pfizer and BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine on Wednesday, saying its own procedure was more thorough, after Britain became the first western country to endorse a COVID-19 shot. The move to grant emergency authorisation to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine has been seen by many as a political coup for UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who has led his country out of the EU and faced criticism for his handling of the pandemic. The decision was made under an ultra-fast, emergency approval process, which allowed the British drugs regulator to temporarily authorise the vaccine only 10 days after it began examining data from large-scale trials. In an unusually blunt statement, the European Medicines Agency (EMA), which is in charge of approving COVID-19 vaccines for the EU, said its longer approval procedure was more appropriate as it was based on more evidence and required more checks than the emergency procedure chosen by Britain. The agency said on Tuesday it would decide by Dec. 29 whether to provisionally authorise the vaccine from U.S. drugmaker Pfizer Inc and its German partner BioNTech SE. A spokesman for the European Commission, the EU executive, said the EMA’s procedure was “the most effective regulatory mechanism to grant all EU citizens’ access to a safe and effective vaccine,” as it was based on more evidence. Pfizer UK Country Manager Ben Osborn said, “We have provided complete data packages, the unblinded data, to both regulators. I think what you’re seeing is just the difference in the underlying process and timelines, as opposed to any difference in data submission.” June Raine, the head of Britain’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), said, “The way in which the MHRA has worked is equivalent to all international standards. “Our progress has been totally dependent on the availability of data in our rolling review and our rigorous assessment and independent advice we have received,” she added. The EMA started a rolling review of preliminary data from Pfizer trials on Oct. 6, an emergency procedure aimed at speeding up possible approval, which usually takes at least seven months from reception of full data. The UK regulator launched its own rolling review on Oct. 30, and analysed less data than made available to the EMA. “The idea is not to be first but to have a safe and effective vaccine,” Germany’s Health Minister Jens Spahn told a news conference. Asked about the emergency procedure used by Britain, he said EU countries had opted for a more thorough procedure to boost confidence in vaccines. “If you evaluate only the partial data as they are doing they also take a minimum of risk,” the EMA’s former head Guido Rasi told an Italian radio. “Personally I would have expected a robust review of all available data, which the British government has not done to be able to say that without Europe you come first,” he added. ‘PROBLEMATIC’ EU lawmakers were even more explicit in their criticism of Britain’s move. “I consider this decision to be problematic and recommend that EU Member States do not repeat the process in the same way,” said Peter Liese, an EU lawmaker who is a member of German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s party. “A few weeks of thorough examination by the European Medicines Agency is better than a hasty emergency marketing authorisation of a vaccine,” said Liese, who represents the centre right grouping, the largest in the EU Parliament. Under EU rules, the Pfizer vaccine must be authorised by the EMA, but EU countries can use an emergency procedure that allows them to distribute a vaccine at home for temporary use. Britain is still subject to EU rules until it fully leaves the bloc at the end of the year. “There is an obvious global race to get the vaccine on the market as fast as possible,” said Tiemo Wolken, an EU lawmaker from the socialist grouping, the second largest in the Parliament. “However, I do believe that it is better to take the time and make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches our EU standards.” -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-12-03 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bluespunk 52,909 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) Hardly a surprise after Hancock’s snide remarks recently. Edited December 3, 2020 by Bluespunk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post ourmanflint 2,473 Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) I am sure all those European citizens who die within the next month will be glad they didn't risk taking a vaccine with only 120* steps of risk assessment over one with 165* steps * not actual numbers - for illustrative purposes only Edited December 3, 2020 by ourmanflint 3 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Bluespunk 52,909 Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 17 hours ago, ourmanflint said: I am sure all those European citizens who die within the next month will be glad they didn't risk taking a vaccine with only 120* steps of risk assessment over one with 165* steps * not actual numbers - for illustrative purposes only Under eu rules any and all countries can fast track vaccines. What the U.K. did is allowed under eu regulations, which the U.K. is currently still subject to. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Scott 16,132 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Troll post removed. This is a discussion forum. Link to post Share on other sites
candide 11,527 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 The vaccine will be out of stock anyway! Pfizer is able to produce max 50 million doses this year WW. With two doses per person, it's 25 million people who will get it WW, half of them in the U.S. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post daveAustin 11,506 Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 Sour grapes much. Who cares what the ****** EU thinks! This is chess not checkers. Big reason why UK citizens voted out because they are unbearably condescending and always sticking their oar in. 9 4 1 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Oldie 3,754 Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 The EU should leave the Brits alone. The EU is an awful organization not loved by many. But the EU and also the Euro are kept alive by some that have benefits. Whatever the Brits decide - it is their country. And honestly - I admire the Brits that they leave the EU and that they kept their own currency. In respect of the vaccine - somebody has to start to use it if it ever should be used. Otherwise it is useless. 11 3 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post sammieuk1 20,128 Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 At least we shot down one Junker with Boris's nimble footwork Rue Britannia a vaccine rules the waves 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post kingdong 4,973 Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Under eu rules any and all countries can fast track vaccines. What the U.K. did is allowed under eu regulations, which the U.K. is currently still subject to. https://www.bbc.co .uk/news/55163730 Boris is his own man,whats the eu going to do?we,re out in 4 weeks. 6 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post JonnyF 13,434 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 Why is this EU stuffed suit commenting on this? It's the UK's business. We're not interested in opinions from Brussels, that's why we voted to leave their corrupt protectionist anti-democratic racket. 5 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Proboscis 2,379 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 14 hours ago, ourmanflint said: I am sure all those European citizens who die within the next month will be glad they didn't risk taking a vaccine with only 120* steps of risk assessment over one with 165* steps * not actual numbers - for illustrative purposes only Don't worry too much about that. The logistical problems with distributing a vaccine that requires storage at minus 80 degrees centigrade is not going to be rolled out very fast. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Proboscis 2,379 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 7 hours ago, daveAustin said: Sour grapes much. Who cares what the ****** EU thinks! This is chess not checkers. Big reason why UK citizens voted out because they are unbearably condescending and always sticking their oar in. What I love so much about the Brexiteers is that even in victory they are sour. The decision to bring out this vaccine early (which by the way was developed by a company led by a German couple of Turkish origin in combination with an American multinational) was heavily criticised by the Americans too. But you did not hear much about that in the British largely pro Brexit press. A little news for Brexiteers and their supporters in the press - you have left the EU. Yes, you are gone. Yes, you are holding out on a number of strange issues that matter to less than 1% of your population (fishing and the so-called level playing field) but you have not fought for the export of services to the EU which is indeed strange, especially since the UK is a service based economy. Nor for a whole raft of other important issues that one would normally expect to be close to the heart of Conservatives but there you are. But you have left the EU and really what the EU says no longer matters. Really. They do have the right to explain to their own much larger population, just as the Americans do, why they are not bringing out the vaccine at the same time. But that is nothing to do with you. The question for you is, has your government done the right thing by bringing out the vaccine early? IMHO, I think it is risky. Politically risky because any small wrinkle will be amplified by the antivaxers. Scientifically risky because there is always a possibility that a glitch could emerge. But that is my opinion. 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post loong 2,438 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Proboscis said: Don't worry too much about that. The logistical problems with distributing a vaccine that requires storage at minus 80 degrees centigrade is not going to be rolled out very fast. Yes, it requires long term storage at minus 80c. I can't remember where I read it, but it can be transported and then stored in a fridge at higher temperatures with a much shorter lifespan of 5 days. I really can't see any vaccine that will be used needing to last more than 5 days in the current situation. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Bluespunk 52,909 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, kingdong said: Boris is his own man,whats the eu going to do?we,re out in 4 weeks. And what has that got to do with what I posted? The fact remains, that fast tracking of vaccines is possible within the eu and brexit had nothing to do with britain being able to do so. Edited December 4, 2020 by Bluespunk 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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