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More than 2,800 Covid-19 deaths were reported Wednesday in the United States -- the most the country has ever reported in a single day -- as health care officials say their staff and facilities are struggling to support burgeoning numbers of patients.
 

The number of Covid-19 patients in US hospitals Wednesday -- 100,226, according to the COVID Tracking Project -- also is the highest reported on a given day during the pandemic.
 
One-day death totals can draw from delayed reports across several days. Still, recently soaring daily rates of infections and hospitalizations has various experts predicting the daily death count could regularly surpass 2,000 or 3,000, and perhaps approach 4,000.

 

 
 
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The Thais are smart, they listened to medical/scientific advice and realized that covid is a virus. To stop the spread of a contagious virus it is very simple, you socially isolate as much as possible

Yes. Thailand will be back into the mess soon. It's not just the US, plenty of nations are seeing massive rises in cases. If you don't, just keep away from the hospitals when you become ill.

COVID pushed people past the edge that were going to die in the coming few years. I'll bet good money that deaths trend 10-20% lower than average next year.   Hardly anyone died "of COVID" b

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6 minutes ago, TooBigToFit said:

Yes. Thailand will be back into the mess soon. It's not just the US, plenty of nations are seeing massive rises in cases. If you don't, just keep away from the hospitals when you become ill.

Why will "Thailand will be back into the mess soon." It's avoided "the mess" so far.

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It's the cold season and as you can see a lot of people coming across the border from Myanmar are bringing it in. Myanmar has a lot of problems. Plus there may be other sources spreading it that we don't know of such as animals or just waste water getting into the rivers that divide nations here. China accuses some of its recent problems as coming from imported foods that have been infected with Covid but who knows if that is true or even possible. But we really don't know how it can be spread 100%. As pressure to let more travellers in rises so do the risks from them. As you can see from the daily reported cases most are people caught coming in from other nations. Some people also think Covid is here too surviving on surfaces from its original entrance and minimal spread. Who knows. Winter is here and going to get worse.

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Does anyone have accurate numbers of the total deaths in the US for 2019 and 2020?

 

I don't talk about projections or excess death during a certain month, just plain number about total mortalities for both years.

 

I searched a lot on google, but I can't find them

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11 minutes ago, TooBigToFit said:

It's the cold season and as you can see a lot of people coming across the border from Myanmar are bringing it in. Myanmar has a lot of problems. Plus there may be other sources spreading it that we don't know of such as animals or just waste water getting into the rivers that divide nations here. China accuses some of its recent problems as coming from imported foods that have been infected with Covid but who knows if that is true or even possible. But we really don't know how it can be spread 100%. As pressure to let more travellers in rises so do the risks from them. As you can see from the daily reported cases most are people caught coming in from other nations. Some people also think Covid is here too surviving on surfaces from its original entrance and minimal spread. Who knows. Winter is here and going to get worse.

As long as Thai people almost unanimously continue to wear masks in public settings the virus will be contained. Maybe a little uptick but not much.

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Thais fear the authorities so when the police come out or soldiers, they usually listen. Plus Thais are fearful in general and I think they'll snap to it when they know the problem is in their area. That's good for Thailand but still the virus is coming and there will be people that have no choice but to work and there will be transmissons. And of course, there aren't enough vaccinations available for everyone so the covid threat will linger on for years.

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13 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As long as Thai people almost unanimously continue to wear masks in public settings the virus will be contained. Maybe a little uptick but not much.

 

You honestly put that much faith in paper masks? 

 

It's social distancing and lockdowns that work.

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You honestly put that much faith in paper masks? 

 

It's social distancing and lockdowns that work.

All kinds of things are made out of paper. From tissue paper to cardboard. I put my faith not in paper but in epidemiologists who overwhelmingly say the paper medical masks commonly worn here work to inhibit those who wear them from spreading the virus. From my personal experience in Thailand, for what it's worth, I don't see people doing much social distancing in supermarkets and other crowded public venues. But I do see virtually all of them wearing either surgical or cloth masks. Apparently the medical type paper masks are in short supply in the USA at least according to Johns Hopkins which asks the public not to buy them for the sake of medical workers.

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40 minutes ago, Susco said:

Does anyone have accurate numbers of the total deaths in the US for 2019 and 2020?

 

I don't talk about projections or excess death during a certain month, just plain number about total mortalities for both years.

 

These are numbers I compiled from CDCs raw data at https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Excess-Deaths-Associated-with-COVID-19/xkkf-xrst/. It goes back to 2017. I made a website but I didn't put it live yet.

 

From the CDC:

 

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Number of deaths reported on this page are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Data are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction and cause of death. See https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm for more information. Data for New York excludes New York City. Data on all deaths excluding COVID-19 exclude deaths with U07.1 as an underlying or multiple cause of death. Death counts were derived from the National Vital Statistics System database that provides the timeliest access to the vital statistics mortality data and may differ slightly from other sources due to differences in completeness, COVID-19 definitions used, data processing, and imputation of missing dates. Weighted estimates may be too high or too low in certain jurisdictions where the timeliness of provisional data has changed in recent weeks relative to prior years. Data for jurisdictions where counts are between 1 and 9 are suppressed.

 

Admins: my data is clearly sourced and data lag is explained so please don't delete my post again if I may ask. 🙂

 

My data (which includes a monthly average for the previous 3 years)

 

Year Excess Deaths Observed Deaths Expected Deaths
2017 10,410 2,751,037 2,740,627
2018 -10,109 2,839,076 2,849,185
2019 -72,411 2,852,588 2,924,999
2020 279,520 2,856,573 2,577,053

 

Here are the monthly totals:

 

Month 2017 2018 2019 2020 Average > Average
January 178,744 261,745 233,375 239,339 224,621 106%
February 234,688 240,233 233,196 295,039 236,039 124%
March 228,907 281,512 288,776 240,357 266,398 90%
April 272,643 218,780 220,724 301,696 237,382 127%
May 208,511 207,895 215,243 321,434 210,549 152%
June 205,153 257,024 263,703 232,922 241,960 96%
July 251,689 204,312 208,192 248,405 221,397 112%
August 200,536 202,941 256,987 312,863 220,154 142%
September 256,711 255,207 208,502 230,568 240,140 96%
October 208,982 211,463 214,500 286,363 211,648 135%
November 215,351 217,277 277,982 147,587 236,870 62%
December 289,122 280,687 231,408 0 267,072 0%

 

 

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1 minute ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

These are numbers I compiled from CDCs raw data at https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Excess-Deaths-Associated-with-COVID-19/xkkf-xrst/. It goes back to 2017. I made a website but I didn't put it live yet.

 

From the CDC:

 

 

Admins: my data is clearly sourced and data lag is explained so please don't delete my post again if I may ask. 🙂

 

My data (which includes a monthly average for the previous 3 years)

 

Year Excess Deaths Observed Deaths Expected Deaths
2017 10,410 2,751,037 2,740,627
2018 -10,109 2,839,076 2,849,185
2019 -72,411 2,852,588 2,924,999
2020 279,520 2,856,573 2,577,053

 

Here are the monthly totals:

 

Month 2017 2018 2019 2020 Average > Average
January 178,744 261,745 233,375 239,339 224,621 106%
February 234,688 240,233 233,196 295,039 236,039 124%
March 228,907 281,512 288,776 240,357 266,398 90%
April 272,643 218,780 220,724 301,696 237,382 127%
May 208,511 207,895 215,243 321,434 210,549 152%
June 205,153 257,024 263,703 232,922 241,960 96%
July 251,689 204,312 208,192 248,405 221,397 112%
August 200,536 202,941 256,987 312,863 220,154 142%
September 256,711 255,207 208,502 230,568 240,140 96%
October 208,982 211,463 214,500 286,363 211,648 135%
November 215,351 217,277 277,982 147,587 236,870 62%
December 289,122 280,687 231,408 0 267,072 0%

 

 

 

 

It is just another unofficial guestimate, and that was clearly not what I asked for.

 

Why is the number of expected deaths for 2020 a convenient 350.000 lower than other years? Is that because otherwise there can be no excess deaths?

 

Why is the number of observed deaths not higher than previous years?

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6 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

 

It is just another unofficial guestimate, and that was clearly not what I asked for.

 

Why is the number of expected deaths for 2020 a convenient 350.000 lower than other years? Is that because otherwise there can be no excess deaths?

 

Why is the number of observed deaths not higher than previous years?

Got a plausible link to back your assertion up?

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1 minute ago, Susco said:

 

Maybe try to read the post I was replying to.

 

Would this do it for you?

 

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I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were challenging the validity of CDC figures. I guess you're challenging the validity NorthernRyland's?

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47 minutes ago, placeholder said:

All kinds of things are made out of paper. From tissue paper to cardboard. I put my faith not in paper but in epidemiologists who overwhelmingly say the paper medical masks commonly worn here work to inhibit those who wear them from spreading the virus. From my personal experience in Thailand, for what it's worth, I don't see people doing much social distancing in supermarkets and other crowded public venues. But I do see virtually all of them wearing either surgical or cloth masks. Apparently the medical type paper masks are in short supply in the USA at least according to Johns Hopkins which asks the public not to buy them for the sake of medical workers.

 

Well, if masks are so good then I don't suppose we need bother with social distancing, lockdowns, and international quarantining?

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