webfact 78,970 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Trump running out of time to solidify immigration agenda after U.S. election loss By Ted Hesson FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump smiles as he prepares to autograph a plaque commemorating the construction of the 200th mile of border wall while visiting the wall on the U.S.-Mexico border in San Luis, Arizona, U.S., June 23, 2020. REUTERS/Carlos Barria/File Photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's administration is pushing to finalize new immigration restrictions before his term ends in January, according to three senior homeland security officials, a last-gasp effort in a policy area that was a central focus during his four years in office. The moves come even as Democratic President-elect Joe Biden has pledged to rescind many of Trump's immigration policies. By finalizing rules that have just been proposed, or issuing last-minute orders, the administration could slow down Biden's efforts to undo many of Trump's signature measures that have made it harder for immigrants to enter and settle in the United States. One measure announced this week limits travel to the United States for Chinese Communist Party members and their immediate families. The State Department said on Thursday it was reducing the maximum validity of tourist visas for that group to one month from 10 years. Another goal for Trump's last few weeks in office is replacing a lottery system used to award H-1B visas to skilled foreign workers, according to officials with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss government operations. Instead, a new selection process would favor visa applicants with higher-paying jobs. White House senior adviser Stephen Miller - considered the architect of Trump's hard-line immigration agenda - told Reuters over the summer that the regulations meant to drive up wages in the H-1B program would be politically unpopular to reverse, since the changes are aimed at protecting U.S. workers. On Thursday, the U.S. Justice Department filed a lawsuit against Facebook Inc, accusing the social media giant of discriminating against potential U.S. hires by favoring temporary workers, including H-1B visas holders. A Facebook spokesman said it disputed the allegations in the complaint. Other measures that could be hurried to the finish line include new rules to restrict access to asylum and a regulation that would allow federal immigration officials to collect DNA from family-based visa applicants and the U.S. citizens or permanent residents who sponsor them. Another measure would tighten visa rules for international students, cultural exchange visitors and foreign journalists. The changes would take the form of regulatory actions that are crafted by agencies and do not require congressional approval but need to follow legal processes outlined in federal law. News reports have also surfaced about a possible Trump executive order to weaken the constitutional right to citizenship for all people born in the United States. A senior homeland security official told Reuters, however, the effort did not appear to be a priority for the White House. Acting DHS Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli is spearheading the last-ditch immigration effort, one official told Reuters, as the president continues to promote unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud and has not conceded his Nov. 3 election defeat. The White House and DHS declined to comment. 'BEFORE THE CLOCK RUNS OUT' Trump is not the first president to engage in a last-minute policy push, according to Republican strategist Alex Conant. "Every outgoing administration tries to do as much as they can before the clock runs out," he said. "There are a lot of true believers in this White House who think immigration is bad for the country and are spending their last hours in power trying to cement their policies." Most of Trump's immigration plans are unlikely to be finished, however, before he leaves office and the ones that are hastily pushed through will be vulnerable to court challenges. A federal judge on Tuesday blocked two different fast-tracked Trump rules targeting the H-1B program. The judge said the administration failed to show "good cause" to skip regulatory steps that typically take months or longer. Rules that have not taken effect by the time Biden takes office on Jan. 20 could be delayed and eventually rescinded, according to three experts in government regulations. Any work in Trump's final month in office will also likely be slowed down by the Christmas and New Year's holidays and possible departures of Trump appointees, which is typical for outgoing administrations. One closely watched policy area will be any final Trump actions related to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which was instituted by President Barack Obama, whom Biden served as vice president. The Supreme Court in June thwarted Trump's attempt to end DACA, which offers deportation relief and work permits to some 646,000 "Dreamer" immigrants brought to the United States as children but who lack legal status. After the ruling, the Trump administration said it would still consider ending the program and then issued an order that narrowed its scope. Even though a federal judge ruled against that move in November, the administration could try other last-minute avenues to hamper the program. "Nothing would surprise us," said Frank Sharry, executive director of the pro-immigrant America's Voice. Biden has promised to send legislation to Congress that would provide a path to citizenship to the estimated 11 million immigrants living in the country illegally, including those enrolled in the DACA program. (Reporting by Ted Hesson in Washington; Editing by Mica Rosenberg, Peter Cooney and Alexandra Hudson) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-12-04 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post PatOngo 44,596 Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 The sooner this disgusting man is out of the news, the better! 18 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Chomper Higgot 35,621 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 Trump might be signing this off but it’s all driven by Miller. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post IgboChief 264 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Trump might be signing this off but it’s all driven by Miller. Chomper, the truth is: as much as I despise [Trump], we need to talk about immigration. In theory, I would love to live in a world with no passports, no borders and free travel and choice of residence. I am also very well aware of my unfair privilege of having a "golden passport" and the "right colour" allowing me to go anywhere. That said, in reality people are emotional and welcoming guests has a certain limit. Also cultures are not always compatible. Ignoring that is as foolish as building a wall again. If you want immigration (and the most of the aging western societies do need immigration), you need to manage it well. I spent the half of my adult life in Africa, I know how they live and (need to) approach their life. When there is no government to bank on, it is all about bending the rules and to get around it and to grab whatever you can. They have no respect for Visa, Workpermits or Regulations. They are all hustling and a lot of them work (but definitely NOT all) work on muscle or body only. So in my opinion, in order to save immigration we need to regulate immigration. Otherwise we lose our justification and the democratic vote and put ourselves in a corner. Not everyone concerned about migrants is a racist. There are justified concerns, I share some of them. Not everyone agitating "human rights" is doing good. The ugly reality is, that we must find a middle ground. So as much as I am relieved seeing Trump gone, I believe he has had a point in arguing about the immigration approach and also denying countries/nationalities entry, which continuously break immigration laws and also refuse to support enforcement (e. g. not confirming nationality and not taking back criminal offenders etc.) As always in life: it is complicated and there is no black or white, just many shades of grey. Edited December 4, 2020 by onthedarkside Trump name calling removed 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tug 21,458 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 What on earth would lead a person to think immigration is or ever was unregulated that’s untrue heck it took almost 2 yrs to get my wife’s papers back in the early eighths trump and his tody Miller should have no more chances to screw this up they have damaged enough lives allready let it get worked out under the new administration yeiks! 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites
IgboChief 264 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, Tug said: What on earth would lead a person to think immigration is or ever was unregulated that’s untrue heck it took almost 2 yrs to get my wife’s papers back in the early eighths trump and his tody Miller should have no more chances to screw this up they have damaged enough lives allready let it get worked out under the new administration yeiks! Allow me to rephrase: It is certainly regulated, but it is getting abused and some of the regulations are in-effective and only loosely enforced (in Europe). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Chomper Higgot 35,621 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 Let’s separate two things. Sensible immigration control and the vicious and racist policies prompted by Miller and enacted by the Trump administration. We can then dispense with the lie that the alternative to these viscous racist policies is not and never has been ‘no immigration control’. Apart from that, your broad brush negative stereotyping of the people of the whole African continent is noted. 8 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Bluespunk 52,909 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: Most of Trump's immigration plans are unlikely to be finished, however, before he leaves office and the ones that are hastily pushed through will be vulnerable to court challenges. Excellent news. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Surelynot 7,745 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 Dictators always, always, need an enemy for the dumb population to refocus their hatred upon.....anyone that can be easily distinguished "physically" is a good start......if not, stick a star on them. 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Sujo 16,943 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 Time for biden to get the executive order pen ready and undo everything trump did. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Jeffr2 8,119 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 That Miller guy is a real nutter. And a hard core racist. Can't wait for him to get booted out. I watched a presidential debate with Ronald Regan. Guess what they were discussing? Immigration reform. No easy answers and politicians are reluctant to take on the hard task. Sadly. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
onthedarkside 1,384 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Off-topic diversion posts on the status of U.S. election results have been removed. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Thomas J 2,224 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 hours ago, IgboChief said: Chomper, the truth is: as much as I despise [Trump], we need to talk about immigration. In theory, I would love to live in a world with no passports, no borders and free travel and choice of residence. igboChief A country is defined by three characteristics. Defined borders, common language and shared culture. You don't expect to go to France and have them speak Norwegian or Swahili. The USA is supposedly a country based on law. Many leftists want to just ignore immigration laws and if you sneak in to the country you get both social benefits and amnesty. If that becomes the effective policy then really the USA is open to anyone and there are no immigration laws. When the populace starts to decide not the lawmakers, which laws to obey and which to ignore then again there really are no laws. People are chosen to jobs, promotions, entry to organizations, sports teams, colleges etc based on MERIT. The USA does in fact need immigrants. However it has like most countries enough with limited to no skills. With manufacturing going overseas and becoming automated the number of unskilled, low skilled labor positions is being reduced. Entry to the USA or for that matter any other country should be based on what the entrant can provide to the country, not what the country can provide to the entrant. One look at Thailand shows you they understand that allowing people into the country is based on meeting certain requirements. An OA Visa requires a background check, minimum income, health certification, and insurance. I can tell you hospitals around the border with Mexico have closed because hospitals can not refuse treatment and Mexicans come across the border either temporarily or permanently to gain treatment but of course they have neither the financial resources or insurance to pay for them. While it may sound humanitarian to allow them in, Paul Harvey said it best. Remember pulling too many people into the life boat swamps the boat and everyone drowns. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xylophone 11,741 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Thomas J said: People are chosen to jobs, promotions, entry to organizations, sports teams, colleges etc based on MERIT. The USA does in fact need immigrants. However it has like most countries enough with limited to no skills. With manufacturing going overseas and becoming automated the number of unskilled, low skilled labor positions is being reduced. Entry to the USA or for that matter any other country should be based on what the entrant can provide to the country, not what the country can provide to the entrant. I am of the same opinion with regards to immigration, as we have something similar in New Zealand, and I have never seen the sense in allowing a broad-brush immigration to occur, whereby the immigrants go straight onto Social Security, get free housing and other benefits, and don't have to work for the rest of their lives. That has happened in the UK and irrespective of whether people from poorer countries are seeking what some call "a better life", in the main they are just seeking an easier life without having to work. Then again, it's as much the government's fault for handing out freebies without demanding that work/employment is part of the deal. I think Biden will have to find some middle ground between Draconian trump-like measures and common sense. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Chomper Higgot 35,621 Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Thomas J said: igboChief A country is defined by three characteristics. Defined borders, common language and shared culture. You don't expect to go to France and have them speak Norwegian or Swahili. The USA is supposedly a country based on law. Many leftists want to just ignore immigration laws and if you sneak in to the country you get both social benefits and amnesty. If that becomes the effective policy then really the USA is open to anyone and there are no immigration laws. When the populace starts to decide not the lawmakers, which laws to obey and which to ignore then again there really are no laws. People are chosen to jobs, promotions, entry to organizations, sports teams, colleges etc based on MERIT. The USA does in fact need immigrants. However it has like most countries enough with limited to no skills. With manufacturing going overseas and becoming automated the number of unskilled, low skilled labor positions is being reduced. Entry to the USA or for that matter any other country should be based on what the entrant can provide to the country, not what the country can provide to the entrant. One look at Thailand shows you they understand that allowing people into the country is based on meeting certain requirements. An OA Visa requires a background check, minimum income, health certification, and insurance. I can tell you hospitals around the border with Mexico have closed because hospitals can not refuse treatment and Mexicans come across the border either temporarily or permanently to gain treatment but of course they have neither the financial resources or insurance to pay for them. While it may sound humanitarian to allow them in, Paul Harvey said it best. Remember pulling too many people into the life boat swamps the boat and everyone drowns. It seems to have evaded you that the United States is a multicultural nation built on centuries of immigration. You make the groundless assertion leftists want to ignore immigration law. You obviously don’t have a clue about US immigration law and how it works. You are clearly oblivious to the large numbers of low skill immigrant workers in Thailand, many who are not here with the correct documents. The US economy needs immigrants and it has a particular need for low skilled immigrants willing to do the jobs Americans refuse to do. 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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