3NUMBAS 1,751 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/covid-19-vaccine-give-virus-23119252 Covid-19 vaccine may give virus immunity for three months, government scientists report A paper published by the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group said the duration of 'natural or vaccine induced immunity is not yet fully understood'. The new Covid-19 vaccine may give people immunity from the virus for 90 days. A paper published by government scientific advisers said that the duration of the jab’s effectiveness is ‘not yet fully understood’. Their estimate is based on the fact that other coronaviruses tend to reinfect after one or two years, the Mirror reports. By Chiara Fiorillo Sarah Vesty 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tarteso 2,900 Posted December 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) No one can predict the long-term effects or immunity time of a vaccine, simply because there is no evidence to verify immunity or effects. Until this day, no one has the ethical, moral, or scientific authority or power to ensure the efficiency of a vaccine. Of course, apart from the false information given by the pharmaceutical companies. Edited December 5, 2020 by Tarteso 6 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Solinvictus 896 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Here comes 2021 and it's soon to be availability of vaccinations! Got vaccine? Seems as though if you're both against vaccinations and a foreigner in LOS, probably will be no choice but to eventually get it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post johng 17,128 Posted December 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2020 3 months ! thats going to be an impossible but lucrative task jabbing 8 billion people again and again and again. Total madness. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post partington 2,259 Posted December 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, johng said: 3 months ! thats going to be an impossible but lucrative task jabbing 8 billion people again and again and again. Total madness. The only madness is taking this BS nonsense article in a tabloid paper seriously. 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post watgate 471 Posted December 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2020 If 3 months efficacy is in fact true then this is pure insanity, I was watching a video which said that the chinese people are against being vaccinated because evidently many have suffered and incurred many serious health issues and problems related to vaccines received in the past which were administered by the Chinese authorities. It will be interesting to see what percentage of the chinese population will get the corona virus vaccine although I am sure the totalitarian Chinese dictatorship will ultimately force it on the chinese population. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
placeholder 7,374 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 10:51 PM, Tarteso said: No one can predict the long-term effects or immunity time of a vaccine, simply because there is no evidence to verify immunity or effects. Until this day, no one has the ethical, moral, or scientific authority or power to ensure the efficiency of a vaccine. Of course, apart from the false information given by the pharmaceutical companies. Vaccination has been in use for centuries. There is plenty of epidemiological evidence to confirm its effectiveness. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post TSF 2,543 Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 According to Dr. John Campbell there are 8000 people alive today who caught sars covid 1. And 17 years later all of these people have complete immunity to covid-19. So there is evidence that immunity to covid-19 gained through vaccines could, and probably will, give lifelong immunity. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Tarteso 2,900 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, placeholder said: Vaccination has been in use for centuries. There is plenty of epidemiological evidence to confirm its effectiveness. That is so clear and obvious, I am talking about the time necessary to ensure its long-term ....”effectiveness” Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post xylophone 11,746 Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Whilst we have got a very knowledgeable fellow by the name of @partington on the thread, and also related to the immunity question, is it really necessary to have a vaccine?? Immunity or not, I've been unable to find out exactly what the total death rate is in the likes of the USA, versus the daily death rate, with Covid. How many people die in the USA of any cause in a day/week/month and how has that been affected by Covid? If the figures are correct we should see tens of thousands more deaths, but from what information I can find, the daily average death rate is the same as before the Covid outbreak? I hope somebody can provide an answer, as it's bugging me somewhat! Edited December 7, 2020 by xylophone 4 Link to post Share on other sites
tifino 8,442 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, TSF said: According to Dr. John Campbell there are 8000 people alive today who caught sars covid 1. And 17 years later all of these people have complete immunity to covid-19. So there is evidence that immunity to covid-19 gained through vaccines could, and probably will, give lifelong immunity. 8000 guinea pigs were actually tested? If this was all proven re applicability with c19, then wouldn't there be any debate required at all on the question of a c19 vaccine, if there's these 8000 sources of antibodies to start up from? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
placeholder 7,374 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 hours ago, johng said: I watched former Pfizer Vice President Mike Yeadon the other day he explained amongst many other interesting things that this "new" virus is 80% similar to the SARS virus for which recovered patients blood has shown immunity for years. ( 21.46 in this video) https://blazingpress.com/former-pfizer-vice-president-mike-yeadon-explains-that-the-spread-of-covid-19-is-over-and-the-public-is-being-lied-to-banned-video-on-youtube-twitter-and-facebook/?fbclid=IwAR22vRhWmjga0u3kdmEKCqPZ9U5HpZEMaNDQVxw2Rrj0epF20xHkODYbCtE US Currently Hospitalized | The COVID Tracking Project US Daily Deaths | The COVID Tracking Project 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Salerno 4,100 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 hours ago, xylophone said: How many people die in the USA of any cause in a day/week/month and how has that been affected by Covid? If the figures are correct we should see tens of thousands more deaths, but from what information I can find, the daily average death rate is the same as before the Covid outbreak? Not up to date yet but you get the idea. https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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Virt 989 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/6/2020 at 12:36 AM, johng said: 3 months ! thats going to be an impossible but lucrative task jabbing 8 billion people again and again and again. Total madness. If you look at Modernas vaccine a small study showed that the participants had a high level of anti bodies for 3 months and then it slowly declines. Which means the vaccine could be effective for a long time after 3 months. Link to post Share on other sites
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