Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) On 12/21/2020 at 12:24 PM, evadgib said: The next critical date in this fiasco is 6th Jan. With your track record in calling foreign elections i'm not altogether surprised that you learned nothing from the utter drumming you and your ilk received a year ago... As a fellow Ponti on this occasion I wish Trump and the USA all the best & I hope their constitution rescues this situation as intended. + President Elect Biden crushed trump and his ilk in the election and all his base supporters are doing now is bleeting sulky nonsense. Edited December 22, 2020 by onthedarkside personal comment removed 7 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Psimbo Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 Trump gets 306 in 2016 and its a landslide. Trump doesn't get 306 in 2020 and throws his toys out of the crib. He really is an embarrassment. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, evadgib said: The next critical date in this fiasco is 6th Jan. With your track record in calling foreign elections i'm not altogether surprised that you learned nothing from the utter drumming you and your ilk received a year ago... As a fellow Ponti on this occasion I wish Trump and the USA all the best & I hope their constitution rescues this situation as intended. + Wake up and smell the reality. It's over. It was over long ago. Mr. Trump is an excellent propagandist, but truth is still truth. Opinion | There is no middle ground between fact and fiction on the election results - The Washington Post Quote There is no middle ground between fact and fiction on the election results AS PRESIDENT Trump continues to lie about last month’s election, national Republican leaders are trying to stake out what they imagine as a middle ground: While Joe Biden is the president-elect, the 2020 election was marred by substantial fraud and election irregularities. In fact, this is also a lie, and their dishonesty damages U.S. democracy. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, evadgib said: The next critical date in this fiasco is 6th Jan. With your track record in calling foreign elections i'm not altogether surprised that you learned nothing from the utter drumming you and your ilk received a year ago... As a fellow Ponti on this occasion I wish Trump and the USA all the best & I hope their constitution rescues this situation as intended. + The US-UK FTA would have amounted to next to nothing anyway. Get over it. Edited December 21, 2020 by placeholder 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnydrops Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 After reading this in the NYTs https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/politics/trump-sidney-powell-voter-fraud.html I am really afraid of what he will try next. It seems calling in the military and forcing an re-election is considered an option to him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, JCauto said: Well, I guess this is truly the end. Two pages in, and not even one cult member has bothered to float the idea that "this is the big one" that will overturn the election. Sad! Finally there on page 3. Just the one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, bunnydrops said: After reading this in the NYTs https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/politics/trump-sidney-powell-voter-fraud.html I am really afraid of what he will try next. It seems calling in the military and forcing an re-election is considered an option to him. trump can consider all he wants, it still won’t happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post earlinclaifornia Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 Who among us read how dumbfounded his supporters here on TVF mocking Biden as a fool for thinking trump would not concede 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, evadgib said: The next critical date in this fiasco is 6th Jan. With your track record in calling foreign elections i'm not altogether surprised that you learned nothing from the utter drumming you and your ilk received a year ago... As a fellow Ponti on this occasion I wish Trump and the USA all the best & I hope their constitution rescues this situation as intended. + A Brexit fan AND a TRump fan. Who would have guessed ???? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Since Trump always cares so much about his image, you would think he would have dropped this nonsense by now since he is seen by so many as a total laughingstock and poor loser. I guess, as some have already said, he wants those contributions to continue to come in since it's easy money with apparently few strings on how he can use it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybangkok Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I'm really in 2 minds what this is all about. Obviously he knows he can't win any of these frivilous lawsuits and I know many think he is persisting purely for the financial gain, but I can't see that as being the main game. I think (and happy to be argued) there is a bigger play going on here which has everyrthing to do with amnesty. Perhaps he knows if he is seen to drag down the deomcratic pricipals of America so low as to even frighten a sycophantic GOP, he has more leverage when the inevitable criminal charges start coming. Or he could just be as dumb as a box of frogs. It's 50:50. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, bunnydrops said: After reading this in the NYTs https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/politics/trump-sidney-powell-voter-fraud.html I am really afraid of what he will try next. It seems calling in the military and forcing an re-election is considered an option to him. No...the military is a defined constitutional force-just as it is in the UK(parliament)and in Canada,Australia and New Zealand. There will be no subverting of the US elections by armed force..Mr Trump will be escorted off the property by Boy Scouts,Girl Guides and Navy Seal Team Six he will then retire to manage a MacDonald's franchise in Palooka,Arizona where his customers will describe him as "happy-but slightly deranged"... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: I'm really in 2 minds It's tough enuf to keep one mind running... but I guess Cybil had 50, so keep on keeping on.. 10 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: which has everyrthing to do with amnesty. I don't think he is that focused,... 11 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: Or he could just be as dumb as a box of frogs distracted as a kitten w/a string? Lets not drag down frogs now too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) On 12/21/2020 at 1:39 PM, johnnybangkok said: I'm really in 2 minds what this is all about. Obviously he knows he can't win any of these frivilous lawsuits and I know many think he is persisting purely for the financial gain, but I can't see that as being the main game. I think (and happy to be argued) there is a bigger play going on here which has everyrthing to do with amnesty. Perhaps he knows if he is seen to drag down the deomcratic pricipals of America so low as to even frighten a sycophantic GOP, he has more leverage when the inevitable criminal charges start coming. Or he could just be as dumb as a box of frogs. It's 50:50. Surely you're joking. Trump has already pulled in $250 million dollars from this scam since Nov. 3, which is the best return he has ever got from any business. Edited December 22, 2020 by onthedarkside flame comment removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tie Dye Samurai Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said: Mr Trump will be escorted off the property by Boy Scouts,Girl Guides and Navy Seal Team Six he will then retire to manage a MacDonald's franchise in Palooka,Arizona where his customers will describe him as "happy-but slightly deranged"... In my perfect world The Space Force gets to escort him off the White House grounds.... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said: No...the military is a defined constitutional force-just as it is in the UK(parliament)and in Canada,Australia and New Zealand. There will be no subverting of the US elections by armed force..Mr Trump will be escorted off the property by Boy Scouts,Girl Guides and Navy Seal Team Six he will then retire to manage a MacDonald's franchise in Palooka,Arizona where his customers will describe him as "happy-but slightly deranged"... Have you ever read the US Constitution? This is the only reference to the military in the whole document: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, Article II, Section 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExpatOK Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) It appears President Trump has decided to exhaust all legal, non-violent remedies before proceeding into uncharted territory. Edited December 21, 2020 by ExpatOK 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cmarshall Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, ExpatOK said: It appears President Trump has decided to exhaust all legal, non-violent remedies before proceeding into uncharted territory. Only a few posters have figured this out. His urging state election officials to violate election law in various ways is itself a felony just as was his attempt to bribe a foreign government into assisting his re-election campaign. To begin with. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 hours ago, michaellee said: This deluded guy is going to die of depression when he’s kicked out of the WH next month. What a loser! I read today he will refuse to leave the WH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, JCauto said: Well, I guess this is truly the end. Two pages in, and not even one cult member has bothered to float the idea that "this is the big one" that will overturn the election. Sad! They must be praying for a miracle! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, cmarshall said: Have you ever read the US Constitution? This is the only reference to the military in the whole document: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, Article II, Section 1. Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, evadgib said: The next critical date in this fiasco is 6th Jan. With your track record in calling foreign elections i'm not altogether surprised that you learned nothing from the utter drumming you and your ilk received a year ago... As a fellow Ponti on this occasion I wish Trump and the USA all the best & I hope their constitution rescues this situation as intended. + I love the wild guesses. Incidentally, I called the subject election ‘bang on’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsall Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, J Town said: I just read a report where 45 stated to aides he plans on staying after the 20th. All sentient beings with the capability of critical thinking know this to be just one more lie, but I really would pay good money to see the FBI escorting a trespasser off the White House grounds. Please provide a link to the report you just read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. Which section, making no reference of any kind to the US military can hardly be evidence to support the claim that the military is "defined" by the Constitution as the other poster claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said: In my perfect world The Space Force gets to escort him off the White House grounds.... He could go to Walter Reid Hospital for treatment in a padded safe space with suitable medication for life 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kelsall said: Please provide a link to the report you just read. Sorry to hear your Google is broken. Trump Floated Not Leaving White House on January 20 (nymag.com) 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, cmarshall said: Have you ever read the US Constitution? This is the only reference to the military in the whole document: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, Article II, Section 1. Yes I have. The US military will not subvert a constitutional order. Mr Biden is now the President elect and will assume office on the appointed time as per the Constitution. Mr Trump will depart. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, cmarshall said: Which section, making no reference of any kind to the US military can hardly be evidence to support the claim that the military is "defined" by the Constitution as the other poster claimed. I'll try to find the article I read about this. But here's a link to the section in the constitution. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/article/article-iii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 hours ago, bendejo said: Actually he figured out a way to pay for it https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fundraising-insigh-idUSKBN27R309 When he is back to being a private citizen, going around on his own jet and spending his days playing golf, are these fools going to keep sending him money? Maybe at his rallies they will literally pass the hat. Seems he does not even have a permanent home any more. Malania wants Florida, the Club does not want him, NYC does not want him, may have to go stay with Ivanka and Jared. Will he be able to continue leasing the jets? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just wondering it states "the campaign" is lodgeing the bid with SCOTUS, wonder do they need Trumps consent to make the filing? Perhaps this is a way to make him look so much more foolish in the eyes of many and the courts, he will have no chance of offical support for any future polical endeavours? Burying him once and for all? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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