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Congrats UK!   You have gone from being a big fish in a big pond to a little fish in a big pond.   I respect the democratic right of a country, but choosing to diminish yourself in

As anyone with half a brain could see that a deal would happen at the last minute. I and many others who voted leave on here predicted it (It wasn't difficult) even though I wanted a no deal and compl

Congrats to all the Pom Brexiters on here. You got the sovereignty of your country back, and the rights of free trade. Well done.  

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15 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

So basically they reached a trade agreement (hard goods) and most services are left out (services of course includes free movement of labour - so not a great surprise they could not come to an agreement).  The UK runs a trade deficit with Europe - which the UK generally is weaker at.... and a surplus in services (which are now at a disadvantage).   Sure the agreement is better than nothing, but it is also not a great agreement...  Sort of sucks to be a small market trying to negotiate with a much larger market... welcome to the real world UK....

 

 

indeed the main asset of the UK is services, mainly finance but not only. For example last year we hired a translator. We needed quality work and went for a UK professional.

 

... Now when we asked about Brexit and how we could bill work out the invoice, she answered "I opened my account at 
SNS Bank" as you guess by their slogan Bankieren in jouw belang she had already moved her business out of the UK.

 

 

 

now I'm sure Brexiteers have thought long and hard about the main asset of their country and why it will be very hard to negotiate a service FTA. 

 

This is what the UK has now:

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/eu-uk_trade_and_cooperation_agreement-a_new_relationship_with_big_changes-overview_of_consequences_and_benefits.pdf

 

 

 

Now what's your plan guy? You just lost easy access to the huge EU services market

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Just now, Laughing Gravy said:

if making a mistake admitting it.

What if one consider he didn't make a mistake?

After all what we discuss here, are interpretations, not facts.

One may of course consider interpretations as facts, but both parties need to be agree on that.

 

Example, if I stated erroneously that the Remainers won the Brexit Referendum, I would immediately apologize.

However I stated that Leavers had different reasons to vote Leave and I gave 4 examples.

I still don't see why I should apologize for this statement. 

 

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30 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

Although we did reach a climax, there are still many deals to be made in the coming months/years, we just mentioned the criminal/terrorist database the UK just lost access to (but not before hacking the entire base, not very gentlemanly)

 

... and we can assess the effective fallout from effective brexit end of January, 6 months, 1 year

 

 

..and in 5 1/2 years when the fishing quotas stabilize at 75%, we can expect some kind on "internal market bill" then.

 

 

 

Brexit is a gift that keeps on giving

In 5 years 6 months the EU fishing quota for accessing UK fishing waters will be 0% each year between now and 5 years 6 months the quota will be reduced

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3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I wanted a no deal and complete break.

Where are you living? Thailand?

How about a complete break and going back to the UK? Forever. No holiday to any other country anymore. And don't you dare to buy anything from those foreigners. Enjoy your sovereignty!

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11 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

If free university fees is important to you , you could make another lifestyle choice relocated to Scotland or the EU I think you have to be there for 6 months

 

University is free in Scotland, but only if you're a student from Scotland or the EU. If that's you, you won't pay a penny towards tuition fees at Scottish universities – the Student Awards Agency for Scotland (SAAS) will cover the £1,820 a year for you.

This also means that if you're a Scottish or EU student but you aren't eligible for the fees waiver for whatever reason, you'll still get a much cheaper deal than you would if you studied elsewhere in the UK.

https://www.savethestudent.org/student-finance/finance-system-for-scottish-students.html#:~:text=Is university free in Scotland%3F,-Credit%3A Paramount Pictures&text=University is free in Scotland,1%2C820 a year for you.

I came across that too, means we definitely need to develop cooperation with Scotland instead of English universities

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6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'm pretty happy with what I've read so far...

 I like your post, despite I am personally not agree with it.

But it is a clear view of how some here interpret the situation, with an explicit sight of how they see the future.

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15 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

In 5 years 6 months the EU fishing quota for accessing UK fishing waters will be 0% each year between now and 5 years 6 months the quota will be reduced

this is not my understanding

 

what I believe is that EU EEZ quota is the same now as before (let's call it 100%) and will be progressively phased out by -25% (lets call it 75%) in 5 1/2 years.

 

After that date the deal will be renegotiated each year. So "il va y avoir du sport", it will be Brexit all over again, with arbitration, tariffs, the EU threatening retaliations..

 

 

 

UE fishermen keep access to the 6-12 miles (this are territorial waters not just EEZ) until 2026.

 

 

 

 

Belgian fishermen for example have a very small fishing zone: 80% of their catches originate in british zones, so you can imagine what getting from a 75% quota to 0% would do

 

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1 minute ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Except those in the EU will be paying more.

That's my main concern, and I am sure for many man in the street in Europe : how much concretely will it cost us.

 

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7 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Don't worry if Scotland gets its independence and joins the EU I fully expect the EU taxpayer will be paying for Scotland universities and much more.

Why not?

 

Anyway even if the Scots are given a say in their future and even if they vote "yes", Scottish independence is still very far away and a complicated question.

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