Thai hospital banned from offer to sell COVID-19 vaccine

[Whale]

11 hours ago, oldhippy said:

War profiteers.

Disgusting.

 

 

I agree BUT as farangs how else are we going to get it? We will be last on a very very long list and if you need it to travel and do business you need it.

[kingdong]

10 hours ago, oldhippy said:

In Belgium it will be free for all, Belgians and legal residents (such as my wife, Thai).

 

Some asylum seekers are not eligible?

[AhFarangJa]

28 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

You forgot farang at back of the line.

I was assuming we will have to pay ten times the going rate anyway.........

[vandeventer]

Red tape, they want control and profits on all vaccines that may come in. As tourism doesn't look so good right now. Private Hospitals should be able to do this if it means we get the vaccine sooner and have a choice of vaccines.

[mtls2005]

Someone else already has a monopoly on a vaccine for Thailand. 

 

Not wise to challenge them.

 

 

[Percy P]

21 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Yet another business seeking to profit from people's suffering.

And it's a hospital.

[thailand49]

No one who doesn't have their head in the sand about Thailand should be surprise.  I read back when they announced their agreement with AstraZ  private hospital are free to obtain their own source with that news my assumption with my coffee buddies here private hospital will be charging foreigners in the range of 5000-10,000 baht.

I've not seen anything of Pfizer or Moderna requesting FDA permission from Thailand, maybe their leaders are trying to monopolize by only endorsing AstraZ and controlling distribution?  Wasn't there something here on T.V. there were plans for May and it would be free for locals.

Personally, I'll take the vaccine at some point but will select the one the government endorses that would allow me to leave Thailand and return without all the hoops needed to get back in?????  I'm waiting for the Johnson and Johnson in January since it only requires one shot?

[Stargeezr]

It is the Pfiser vaccine that need very cold storage.  The moderna vaccine does not

need this special care. jesimps get your facts straight   okay?

Geezer

[AlQaholic]

I have already said this in a previous post, first there will be the private hospitals in BKK offering vaccines for astronomic charges. After that some clinics here and there will be offering fake vaccines that are only plasma. Next will be the black market and dark guys in dark sois selling "real" vaccine. And then there is utter chaos.... as usual.

 

And don't forget the online vaccine market:)

Edited December 28, 2020 by AlQaholic

[Bender Rodriguez]

greed & profits in time of pandemic, so THAI

[Stargeezr]

Any hospital or clinic that is trying to get rich  from any of the covid vaccines

should be publicly named and publicly shamed.   I do hope the government

  lets all the medical places understand this.

Geezer

[Percy P]

3 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

No one who doesn't have their head in the sand about Thailand should be surprise.  I read back when they announced their agreement with AstraZ  private hospital are free to obtain their own source with that news my assumption with my coffee buddies here private hospital will be charging foreigners in the range of 5000-10,000 baht.

I've not seen anything of Pfizer or Moderna requesting FDA permission from Thailand, maybe their leaders are trying to monopolize by only endorsing AstraZ and controlling distribution?  Wasn't there something here on T.V. there were plans for May and it would be free for locals.

Personally, I'll take the vaccine at some point but will select the one the government endorses that would allow me to leave Thailand and return without all the hoops needed to get back in?????  I'm waiting for the Johnson and Johnson in January since it only requires one shot?

Good advice. Don't panic keep your own body immune up to scratch to fight the virus germ. That's what it's there fore. Eat the right food. Smoking and drinking doesn't help.

[Tarteso]

As someone post ... BEGIN A WAR PROFITEERS.

[Jeffr2]

12 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

greed & profits in time of pandemic, so THAI

So human.  As a foreigner, I doubt we'll get it here for free anyway.  It's going to cost money just like the other jabs we get.  I'd love to be able to sign up for a jab now.  It would make the future more certain for me.

[AlQaholic]

11 minutes ago, Percy P said:

Good advice. Don't panic keep your own body immune up to scratch to fight the virus germ. That's what it's there fore. Eat the right food. Smoking and drinking doesn't help.

Wadaya mean? I drink all the time and it helps a lot!

[StevieAus]

11 hours ago, tgw said:

approved or not, the decision of which medicine can be administered to patients should ultimately be the doctor's.

I think you will find that most Western countries have a regulatory authority that has to approve new drugs Thailand is no different.

[BestB]

10 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Anyone else believe that is just robbery in daylight? Regardless of the hospital mark up?

They will be selling hundreds of millions and that is the best price they can come up with per dose?

Gonna be several billion people a bit short of the payment needed.

This should be free to all, paid for by their governments, especially in those countries dependent on tourism.

With hospitals heavily penalised for further up pricing it in the private sector.

Not only Thai hospitals are at it once again with 1000% mark up but would appear owners of pharma will be worth into trillions , so will supply chain , so will distribution , so will hospitals. While majority slip into “poor” from middle class, some minority will amass wealth beyond calculator abilities 

[LomSak27]

11 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Thailand has signed an advance deal for AstraZeneca’s potential COVID-19 vaccine, but has not set rollout plans for any vaccine yet.

 

Has their been a misunderstanding about scheduling, distribution and uh, payment? They were really talking it up, then as other countries roll out the vaccine and start vaccinating people, suddenly SILENCE descends here in LOS. Add to that a hospital that wants to sell a vaccine gets jumped on by the Government.

Why is this not surprising. ????

[mtls2005]

16 minutes ago, AlQaholic said:

I have already said this in a previous post, first there will be the private hospitals in BKK offering vaccines for astronomic charges.

 

Are there any facts, or history, to support such a claim?

 

My annual flu vaccine at Bumrungrad was 1,150 THB (June, 2020). In the U.S. it is ~ $40.

 

My doc said a vaccine should be avaiable here, 2H 2021, at a reasonable price.

 

 

 

 

[MadMac]

Greed in its finest. Would not have expected anything less.

[Road Warrior]

unbelievable !! the world has started vaccinations and all approved !!!  what is Thailand thinking of ???

[AlQaholic]

3 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Are there any facts, or history, to support such a claim?

Ahem, I think yes, for example this very discussion topic...

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

As the first governments begin vaccine rollouts around the world, questions have been raised over how the limited supplies are prioritised and whether people will be able to pay to jump the queue.

That will be a given here i LOS, the chosen gods will get it free while those that are privileged will follow.

[OldPedro]

Typical Thai opportunism and corruption.....at all levels.

[mtls2005]

9 minutes ago, AlQaholic said:

Ahem, I think yes, for example this very discussion topic...

 

Well, this effort was shut down.

 

And, obviously, I meant examples other than this one.

 

If this is your only example, I'm not sure you're predictions carry much weight?

 

 

[scorecard]

22 minutes ago, BestB said:

Not only Thai hospitals are at it once again with 1000% mark up but would appear owners of pharma will be worth into trillions , so will supply chain , so will distribution , so will hospitals. While majority slip into “poor” from middle class, some minority will amass wealth beyond calculator abilities 

And just another item adding to 'the rich get richer and the poor get poorer'.

[herfiehandbag]

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

No. Because a  doctor can prescribe a drug for off label use does not make it appropriate for patient. That is why there are regulators. We have opioid crisis in much of the western world because doctor handed out opioids like candy. Countries like Thailand give antibiotic out easy and now we have super infections. If all doctors  were honest and capable we would not have medical errors or wrongful prescriptions.

 

To answer question on Covid19, do not confuse what advanced countries have done with other countries. Advanced countries have pre purchased vaccine , and invested money in R&D. The cost of the vaccine varies by country. It is all based upon the relationship buying group has. Because EU and especially Germany supported Pfizer BionTech, of course it will receive reduced cost, same for for AZ Oxford in UK and USA with Moderna and Johnson.  Thailand did not contribute anything in advance, so it will pay market price.

For reference; cost for 2 doses of popular Covid 19 vaccine;

Moderna, USA $70 / EU  $36

 Pfizer  USA $40 / EU $30

Johnson & Johnson’s  USA $10 / EU $17

AstraZeneca $7 / $2.20

Novavax $32 / N/A

 

If Thailand is to  protect itself it will have to make vaccine free with no profit taking by hospitals. If hospitals use this to make money, the poor people will not be vaccinated. This means that no recovery for tourism, restaurants, factories, and agriculture.  The people who can afford to pay 3,000 baht do not clean toilet at the hotel or grow rice.

Your price listing is very informative, thank you.

 

The essential problem, for Thailand, is that here is an opportunity to make money. Those to whom the government is beholden will wish to seize it. Yes there will be much noise made about it being available within the Government Health System, but provision will be totally inadequate, meaning it will be effectively only be readily available privately and that will cost. No doubt a monopoly will emerge, with the usual suspects up there on top.

 

Sad but inevitable.

[sandyf]

12 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

What a fiasco.  Does this have anything to do with Thailands contract with Astrazenica and the wanting to build there own lab as well to create a vaccine.  If there is a vaccine that works shouldn't everyone have the option to choose,

The xenophobes are out in force again.

It has nothing to do with removing choices, it is about advertising control, which is common in most countries.

The hospital broke the law, end of story.

[garzhe]

11 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

They never miss an opportunity to profiteer do they?

The AstraZenica jabs will be 3 quid a pop in the UK.

Thailand has a contract with AstraZenica to purchase at cost. Have to wonder how much of that will find its way in to the private market to be sold at exorbitant prices.

[maddermax]

What is frightening is the total lack of information from the Government on when they hope to roll out the vaccine for the public.