webfact Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 U.S. House approves $2,000 coronavirus aid checks sought by Trump By Susan Cornwell and Steve Holland FILE PHOTO: The U.S. Capitol Building following a rainstorm on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., December 4, 2020. REUTERS/Tom Brenner/File Photo WASHINGTON/PALM BEACH, Fla. (Reuters) - The Democratic-led U.S. House of Representatives voted 275-134 to meet President Donald Trump's demand for $2,000 COVID-19 relief checks on Monday, sending the measure on to an uncertain future in the Republican-controlled Senate. Trump last week threatened to block a massive pandemic aid and spending package if Congress did not boost stimulus payments from $600 to $2,000 and cut other spending. He backed down from his demands on Sunday as a possible government shutdown brought on by the fight with lawmakers loomed. But Democratic lawmakers have long wanted $2,000 relief checks and used the rare point of agreement with Trump to advance the proposal - or at least put Republicans on record against it - in the vote on Monday. One hundred thirty Republicans, two independents and two Democrats opposed the increase on Monday. Trump finally signed the $2.3 trillion package into law, while still demanding $2,000 checks. It includes $1.4 trillion in spending to fund government agencies and $892 billion in COVID relief. Lawmakers will seek to override President Trump’s recent veto of a $740-billion bill setting policy for the Defense Department. If successful, it would be the first veto override of Trump’s presidency. This report produced by Jonah Green. 2020-12-28T174049Z_1_LOV000MFPM9GV_RTRMADV_STREAM-2000-16X9-MP4_USA-TRUMP.MP4 It is not clear how the measure to increase aid checks will fare in the Senate, where individual Republican lawmakers have said the higher amount would add hundreds of billions of dollars to the latest relief bill. The Senate is due to convene on Tuesday. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Sunday made no mention of Senate plans for a vote, after welcoming Trump's signing of the relief bill. The coronavirus pandemic has killed nearly 330,000 people in the United States and led to widespread economic hardship, with millions of families relying on unemployment benefits and COVID relief funds. (Reporting by Susan Cornwell and David Morgan in Washington and Steve Holland in Palm Beach; additional reporting by Susan Heavey and Simon Lewis; Writing by Matt Spetalnick and David Brunnstrom; Editing by Noeleen Walder, Alistair Bell and Tim Ahmann) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-12-29 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, webfact said: One hundred thirty Republicans, two independents and two Democrats opposed the increase on Monday I wonder how Trump may call these Republicans who did not vote in the way he wanted. ŔINO? Edited December 28, 2020 by candide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 I think it's called wedge politics. If the Republicans in the Senate reject what Congress has approved, their chances in the Georgia runoffs are going to decline precipitously. Who wants to vote for Scrooge? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 I perdict a certain political party’s goona look kinda cheep lol I’d be delighted if it does pass 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 @Pattaya Spotter: you're about to get your check! But perhaps best to send a note to McConnell saying you really need this cash. Can't wait to see how this plays out. Especially in GA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. The thread is about corona virus relief payments, and has nothing to do with gun ownership. Please stay on topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, candide said: I wonder how Trump may call these Republicans who did not vote in the way he wanted. ŔINO? Silly Trump he should know by now the GOP only votes in their OWN self interest....always been party over people 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: I think it's called wedge politics. If the Republicans in the Senate reject what Congress has approved, their chances in the Georgia runoffs are going to decline precipitously. Who wants to vote for Scrooge? Trump's vindictiveness is beyond the pale. This move makes no political sense and is directly aimed at the Senate leadership who have accepted Biden as President-elect. Trump is trying to blow up the GOP before he leaves. After 4 years, this may be his one and only worthy accomplishment. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, candide said: I wonder how Trump may call these Republicans who did not vote in the way he wanted. ŔINO? It has not been a good week for Trump. The House overrode his veto of an annual defense policy bill by 322-87 with majority of Republicans joining in, teeing up what could be the first time Congress overrides a veto from Trump weeks before he leaves office. Trump's favourite newspaper dumped on him with a screaming headlined to "stop the insanity". His long time loyalist Fox political commentator Geraldo Rivera called him out and labelled him as an entitled frat boy. Mike Pence will probably be the one to hammer in the final nail on January 6. Left to be seen will be the kind of 'reception' he will get exiting the WH. Good riddance. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: It has not been a good week for Trump. The House overrode his veto of an annual defense policy bill by 322-87 with majority of Republicans joining in, teeing up what could be the first time Congress overrides a veto from Trump weeks before he leaves office. Trump's favourite newspaper dumped on him with a screaming headlined to "stop the insanity". His long time loyalist Fox political commentator Geraldo Rivera called him out and labelled him as an entitled frat boy. Mike Pence will probably be the one to hammer in the final nail on January 6. Left to be seen will be the kind of 'reception' he will get exiting the WH. Good riddance. IMO once Trump has lost presidential immunity, either placing him on trial for sedition or a civil class action for negligence would not be a bad idea. The medical system is on the point of collapse. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-29/australian-doctor-us-fears-covid-19-surge-california-hospitals/13019044 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: It has not been a good week for Trump. The House overrode his veto of an annual defense policy bill by 322-87 with majority of Republicans joining in, teeing up what could be the first time Congress overrides a veto from Trump weeks before he leaves office. Trump's favourite newspaper dumped on him with a screaming headlined to "stop the insanity". His long time loyalist Fox political commentator Geraldo Rivera called him out and labelled him as an entitled frat boy. Mike Pence will probably be the one to hammer in the final nail on January 6. Left to be seen will be the kind of 'reception' he will get exiting the WH. Good riddance. And to make your head spin more, the repubs are suing pence to stop him from formalizing the electors. They want him to disregard voters and chose his own. Trump sure has made the US crazyland. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Tug said: I’d be delighted if it does pass So that next year you can complain about the huge national debts built up under the republicans, and that the dollar is worth 20 Baht? I assume you are on the receiving end of such a $2000 cheque ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Sujo said: And to make your head spin more, the repubs are suing pence to stop him from formalizing the electors. They want him to disregard voters and chose his own. Trump sure has made the US crazyland. Grifter that continue to scam his supporters right up to the end. Challenging without precedent a 1887 federal law is foolhardy. Pence will just perform his ceremonial role on Jan 6. The court will not likely to take up the lawsuit. It will go done to political pressure with errant GOPs forcing a debate and right wingers like the Proud Boys demonstrating. Will Pence bend to political pressure is the question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Susco said: So that next year you can complain about the huge national debts built up under the republicans, and that the dollar is worth 20 Baht? I assume you are on the receiving end of such a $2000 cheque ? People cant eat, they need it. It also boosts the economy. No i am not a recipient. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Lacessit said: I think it's called wedge politics. If the Republicans in the Senate reject what Congress has approved, their chances in the Georgia runoffs are going to decline precipitously. Who wants to vote for Scrooge? McConnell will avoid a vote on it. And if he does, then that means votes for the two Democrats in Georgia and replacing Mitch once and, hopefully, for all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Susco said: So that next year you can complain about the huge national debts built up under the republicans, and that the dollar is worth 20 Baht? I assume you are on the receiving end of such a $2000 cheque ? The money for the $2000 is a small percentage of what has already gone to the banks, airlines, cruise ship companies, defense contractors, and Big Tech. All of which eventually found its way back into the stock market via stock buybacks and corporate bond purchases. Why weren't you worried about stopping those dollars? 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, John Drake said: Why weren't you worried about stopping those dollars? Because I'm not a US citizen, so if the dollar drains to zero, only good for me as US goods get cheap for me. I only voiced my opinion, since this is a discussion forum, about the stimulus that is going on everywhere in the world, and what the effects will be. As for your comment about the money that went in the stock market, creating a massive bubble, let's see what happens to that in 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 it’s difficult to understand as to why Trump held up the stimulus bill, demanded an increase and less pork and then did a complete 360 in a few days. The delay has been disastrous for his image and created friction in the party. Can’t see any political upside in that strategy. Was he tricked by Lindsey and McCarthy over the weekend golf session that the GOPs will take on his 2k proposal, cut pork and rescind section 230 after he signed the Bill. For sure the GOPs ain’t going to do all that after he signed. This may signal a intention from the party to pivot away from Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I am happy for the people to get their $2000. If the Republican's reject this in the Senate though I have to admire them in a strange way for sticking to their guns that $600 is enough. This would be despite upsetting the president, and many voters, including Georgian voters. If they are as cynical as they seem to be you'd think they would vote it through and let the Democrats deal with the debt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 The way Republicans handle this could be deciding the Senate run off in Georgia. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Fair question: Will a Married Filing Jointly with a non-citizen ITIN spouse preclude you from any stimulus check this round? We received nothing last time, and may not this time either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: Fair question: Will a Married Filing Jointly with a non-citizen ITIN spouse preclude you from any stimulus check this round? We received nothing last time, and may not this time either. You should have gotten a check last time for yourself. This time around your spouse will be eligible as well. At least for the $600 according to the bill as passed. Edited December 29, 2020 by placeholder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, placeholder said: You should have gotten a check last time for yourself. This time around your spouse will be eligible as well. At least for the $600 according to the bill as passed. Thanks. Fingers crossed. Did not get a check last time, due to an incorrect interpretation of the Married Filing Jointly with ITIN spouse. UbonJoe a frequent TV poster explained this to us last round. My theory: the IRS incorrectly assumes this status is one with illegal aliens using an alias whereby only one of them has a stolen SSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 A misinformation post and several replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unblocktheplanet Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Spend $740 billion on war & cheap out on people. Nice... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Isaan sailor said: Thanks. Fingers crossed. Did not get a check last time, due to an incorrect interpretation of the Married Filing Jointly with ITIN spouse. UbonJoe a frequent TV poster explained this to us last round. My theory: the IRS incorrectly assumes this status is one with illegal aliens using an alias whereby only one of them has a stolen SSN. Actually the previous law specifically excluded legal spouses with ITN numbers. Edited December 29, 2020 by placeholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, placeholder said: Actually the previous law specifically excluded legal spouses with ITN numbers. We (married filing jointly with an ITIN spouse) breathe a collective sigh of relief. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: We (married filing jointly with an ITIN spouse) breathe a collective sigh of relief. Thanks again. I believe I also read that your spouse will get paid retroactively for the first set of payments. But I wouldn't swear to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: I believe I also read that your spouse will get paid retroactively for the first set of payments. But I wouldn't swear to that. My wife will also thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 And I'm wrong. At least if the NY Times is right then I'm wrong. I wouldn't bet against them. In the spring, that usually meant that neither of you was eligible for payments. Now, when two people are married and filing their taxes jointly and only one spouse has a Social Security number, they will be eligible for a single $600 payment. Each of their children with Social Security numbers would also be eligible for the $600. Stimulus Deal Q&A: Second Check, Unemployment Insurance and More - The New York Times (nytimes.com) Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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