webfact Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Thailand reports 194 new COVID-19 cases REUTERS file photo for reference only Thailand confirmed 194 new coronavirus cases on Thursday, down slightly from the 250 reported on Wednesday. Of the new cases, 181 were local transmissions and 13 were imported cases from people on repatriation flights and in state quarantine centers. There are now reported cases in 49 provinces in Thailand. There were no new deaths reported, while a further 2 people have been discharged from hospital. 2,583 people remain in hospital or held in a migrant worker quarantine centre. Thursday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 cases in Thailand to 6,884. The number of new infections and total cases in Thailand since 14 Dec is as follows: 14 Dec: +28 (4,237) 15 Dec: +9 (4,246) 16 Dec: +15 (4,261) 17 Dec: +20 (4,281) 18 Dec: +16 (4,297) 19 Dec: +34 (4,331) 20 Dec: +576 (4,907) 21 Dec: +382 (5,289) 22 Dec: +427 (5,716) 23 Dec: +46 (5,762) 24 Dec: +67 (5,829) 25 Dec: +81 (5,910) 26 Dec: +110 (6,020) 27 Dec: +121 (6,141) 28 Dec: +144 (6,285) 29 Dec: +155 (6,440) 30 Dec: +250 (6,690) 31 Dec: +194 (6,884) -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-12-31 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyril sneer Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 1st +180 2nd + 167 3rd + 155 4th + 146 5th + 128 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 Not making sense with the numbers, you would expect an exponential growth. This appears just like the first mini wave we had. The numbers can not be right, or are they not including all again. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said: Not making sense with the numbers, you would expect an exponential growth. This appears just like the first mini wave we had. The numbers can not be right, or are they not including all again. Or they stopped testing over the Christmas period ! The growth will probably start exponentially about 3rd or 4th 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Bob Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) I don't care how many times the PM heard this. You could have had a vaccine by now and nothing has been done. To me this is dereliction of duty. A vaccine now would have the country fully open in less then a year. But to keep hoping cases go down on their own is not going to work. I think Thailand needs new leadership. Edited December 31, 2020 by Mango Bob 11 1 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mango Bob said: I don't care how many times the PM heard this. You could have had a vaccine by now and nothing has been done. To me this is dereliction of duty. A vaccine now would have the country fully open in less then a year. But to keep hoping cases go down on their own is not going to work. I think Thailand needs need leadership. Ya Think, really. Of course many do as well think he needs to go..... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2long Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 We all know that - one part of the government has no clue what the other is doing - they make stuff up - they lie - they have to save face and never admit having lied It's just numbers, none of which I believe. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Not making sense with the numbers, you would expect an exponential growth. This appears just like the first mini wave we had. The numbers can not be right, or are they not including all again. You would only get exponential growth if the R number is above one. The aim of mitigation measures such as mask wearing, personal hygiene, social distancing, the restriction of gatherings etc is to keep it below 1. If those measures have the effect that we all hope they would (and which the evidence suggests they can have) then you would not see exponential growth. 17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Olmate Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 Young bloke in the yellow shirt is in a good paddock! 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Not making sense with the numbers, you would expect an exponential growth. This appears just like the first mini wave we had. The numbers can not be right, or are they not including all again. Of course you can substantiate the claim ".... not including all again" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Not making sense with the numbers, you would expect an exponential growth. This appears just like the first mini wave we had. The numbers can not be right, or are they not including all again. Unevenness is caused by data noise (nonuniformity) and reporting times. A good sign the data is real. If it goes up smooth, it's more suspicious. Noise is a problem with the highly infectious strain because of large clusters and super spreaders. The Nonthbuti cluster is now almost 50. Edited December 31, 2020 by rabas 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 32 minutes ago, cyril sneer said: 1st +180 2nd + 167 3rd + 155 4th + 146 5th + 128 ?????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DavisH Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Not making sense with the numbers, you would expect an exponential growth. This appears just like the first mini wave we had. The numbers can not be right, or are they not including all again. Few countries increase exponentially, as that only occurs when no controls are in place and it assumes everyone has an equal chance of exposure and infection. I would expect some increases over time, but i doubt outright exponential growth will occur for any appreciable amount of time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Or they stopped testing over the Christmas period ! The growth will probably start exponentially about 3rd or 4th Thais don't celebrate Christmas. Just look at the dip in the US numbers on Xmas day. There were considerably lower. Thai numbers may be low for the next few days but may increase in the new year as people return back to work. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, cyril sneer said: 1st +180 2nd + 167 3rd + 155 4th + 146 5th + 128 7th 1000+ (cause incubation times) Edited December 31, 2020 by rabas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Is there a breakdown by province yet? It potentially makes a big difference to us in Pattaya if 100+ of the new local cases are in Banglamung, or <50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Guderian said: Is there a breakdown by province yet? It potentially makes a big difference to us in Pattaya if 100+ of the new local cases are in Banglamung, or <50. I think that's happened?? Guaranteed, the real number is 5-10x what's being reported. They even admit to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said: I think that's happened?? Guaranteed, the real number is 5-10x what's being reported. They even admit to this. Evidence? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 36 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Not making sense with the numbers, you would expect an exponential growth. This appears just like the first mini wave we had. The numbers can not be right, or are they not including all again. People are wearing masks and cleaning their hands here. Any proof of other numbers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 34 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Or they stopped testing over the Christmas period ! Why would a Buddhist country do that, you make no sense at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, Guderian said: Is there a breakdown by province yet? It potentially makes a big difference to us in Pattaya if 100+ of the new local cases are in Banglamung, or <50. "Meanwhile, the governor of Thailand’s eastern province of Chon Buri ordered the lockdown of Bang Lamung district, after 108 new COVID-19 cases were recorded in a single day. ... Governor Pakkaratorn Thienchai said today that new infections increased by 108 cases today from 12 cases yesterday and 22 cases on Monday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: I think that's happened?? Guaranteed, the real number is 5-10x what's being reported. They even admit to this. Where do they admit the number is 5-10 times higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, rabas said: Evidence? Who needs evidence when the TVF experts are on call 24/7.. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Why would a Buddhist country do that, you make no sense at all I know many Thais that celebrate Christmas and do not work, may as well make a daft comment like Thais don't celebrate muslim holidays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, rabas said: Evidence? https://bangkokherald.com/coronavirus/new-evidence-casts-doubts-on-accuracy-of-thailands-official-coronavirus-statistics/ read the last 2 paragraphs...there are many more articles like this where they say the same thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Where do they admit the number is 5-10 times higher? Never said they admitted to 5-10 times higher. Just that they admitted they don't know about all cases. And before this outbreak, they said the virus was still there. Sad times here in Thailand now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said: https://bangkokherald.com/coronavirus/new-evidence-casts-doubts-on-accuracy-of-thailands-official-coronavirus-statistics/ read the last 2 paragraphs...there are many more articles like this where they say the same thing. In addition to the article admitting it was all wrong about antibody tests, which was completely removed .... -- The paragraph does not support your claim 5x 10x. -- PCR testing does find asymptomatic cases, thus not relevant. -- Worldwide the accepted level of true asymptomatic cases is about 17% to 20%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, rabas said: In addition to the article admitting it was all wrong about antibody tests, which was completely removed .... -- The paragraph does not support your claim 5x 10x. -- PCR testing does find asymptomatic cases, thus not relevant. -- Worldwide the accepted level of true asymptomatic cases is about 17% to 20%. I never said they admitted to 5x 10x. Just that they admitted there were more cases than they report. That's in the article. And many others that I could come up with. Congrats to them for admitting this. Not sure how we got onto PCR testing or asymptomatic cases.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiekerjozef Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, 2long said: We all know that - one part of the government has no clue what the other is doing - they make stuff up - they lie - they have to save face and never admit having lied To me that is exactly what all governments around the world do. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Let's not forget Rayong Thai PBS World @ThaiPBSWorld · 1h The police commander of Chon Buri has been abruptly removed from his post for alleged gross negligence in allowing illegal gambling dens to operate, which are being blamed for the COVID-19 outbreak in the province. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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