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There is a very simple solution to this problem. If the authorities were interested in solutions. The burning has to stop. There are alternatives, to this 19th century technique of burning after the sugar cane harvest. Either the government starts to encourage farmers to switch to more environmentally friendly crops, or they start to penalize farmers for burning. This heinous burning, is leading to a tremendous degree of environmental degradation, and alot of lung disease. So here is what I propose-

 

1. It is already illegal to burn. So, enforce the law! Fine the farmers 5,000 baht for a first offense, and give them a stern warning, that burning is now prohibited, and the second fine will be very harsh.

 

2. For a second offense, fine the farmer 100,000 baht, and warn them that if the burning continues, their land will be confiscated. If the fine is not paid within 30 days, it becomes a permanent lien on the land. 

 

3. On the 3rd offense, confiscate their land. Period. No questions. No legal proceeding or appeals on the part of the farmers. Allow others to come in and purchase the land at a fair price, with the caveat that sugar is prohibited as a crop to be grown on that land.

The news would travel faster than the toxic smoke, and farmers would change their ways overnight, and move into the 21st century.

 

Then they can move on to tackle the sale of diesel vehicles, and the government's enthusiastic support of such. It is inane in this day and age. Most nations are moving away from diesel for good reasons. When they are not well maintained, they foul the air, with large, nasty particles. And who properly maintains their vehicle here?

 

Lastly they can convert all of the 10 remaining diesel and coal fired power plants. Thailand has already done a very admirable job with renewable power plants. There are over 50 powered by hydro, geothermal, wind, solar and biomass. That is impressive. However, they only generate aboit 15% of the power required by this nation. 

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Why do people keep blaming the poor sugar cane farmers?  The sugar cane is burnt before it is harvested  by hand. Not after it is harvested.  It is a lot harder to hand harvest unburnt sugar cane. 

It is the rich sugar factories that should be held to account for the pollution their industry causes. 

The way I believe that sugar cane is mechanically harvested is that the poor sugar cane farmer has to pay up front for the harvesting company to start harvesting.  Often, they can't afford it. 

It is the Sugar factory that should pay the harvesting companies, they can afford it.  Then deduct that money from what they pay the sugar farmer for their crop. 

Please stop blaming the poor sugar cane farmers and start blaming the sugar factories.  

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4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The burning has to stop.

 

Absolutely OK,  spidermike007.

Thanks for the post. - I agree completely.

We all know, burning is ONE of MANY causes for

particulate matter in the air. - But what you're

suggesting would be even for him a difficult task:

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[Roman marble statue on the basis of an original by Lysippos, 216 CE.]

There is no perspective? 

OK, sometimes it's the farmers.

But the other 75% ?

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19 hours ago, Toany said:

Why do people keep blaming the poor sugar cane farmers?  The sugar cane is burnt before it is harvested  by hand. Not after it is harvested.  It is a lot harder to hand harvest unburnt sugar cane. 

It is the rich sugar factories that should be held to account for the pollution their industry causes. 

The way I believe that sugar cane is mechanically harvested is that the poor sugar cane farmer has to pay up front for the harvesting company to start harvesting.  Often, they can't afford it. 

It is the Sugar factory that should pay the harvesting companies, they can afford it.  Then deduct that money from what they pay the sugar farmer for their crop. 

Please stop blaming the poor sugar cane farmers and start blaming the sugar factories.  

And on top of that the sugar cane companies should pay the districts for the tremendous damage they cause to the local roads every season. Those huge trucks are very hard on those roads. Overall, sugar is a very caustic, toxic and harmful industry on so many levels. There have to be better alternatives. 

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Looks like the pollution season has finally kicked off in earnest.  Time to break out N95 masks if possible.  Last night walking in Phrom Phongse/ Sukhumvit area PM2.5 was measuring between 90-120, so AQI of roughly 168-184.  Haven't gone outside today, but am guessing based on indoor measurements it may be higher today.

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17 minutes ago, Misty said:

Looks like the pollution season has finally kicked off in earnest.  Time to break out N95 masks if possible.  Last night walking in Phrom Phongse/ Sukhumvit area PM2.5 was measuring between 90-120, so AQI of roughly 168-184.  Haven't gone outside today, but am guessing based on indoor measurements it may be higher today.

Terrible, never mi d the long term health issues 

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On 1/2/2021 at 10:01 AM, spidermike007 said:

And on top of that the sugar cane companies should pay the districts for the tremendous damage they cause to the local roads every season. Those huge trucks are very hard on those roads. Overall, sugar is a very caustic, toxic and harmful industry on so many levels. There have to be better alternatives. 

 

The increase in sugar cane growing in recent years is attributable to the demand for ethanol which in turn is due to the government's push towards biofuels like gasohol. Huge investment has gone into ethanol production which makes it politically untenable to substantially increase production costs which would in turn increase the cost of fuel in Thailand.

 

I think that is the main reason why the government seems so reluctant to admit that sugar is the big driver of this seasonal increase in air pollution. They've got themselves between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

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PM2.5 is going up. Normally it goes down as the day progresses. The Chao Phraya Express boat in the background is out of focus but the haze is real.

 

Today is the worst I have ever seen. Considering how light the traffic is these days, I think it is a good indication that vehicle pollution is not the most significant factor.

 

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