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UK PM Johnson could lose his seat and majority at next election - poll


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6 hours ago, JoePai said:

What a stupid article, 3 years is a millennium in politics, heck lets over this Covid thing first before worrying who will get into number 10 next

 

Agreed - who can possibly foretell with any accuracy at this stage the issues which will be at the forefront of voters' minds as they troop to their polling stations in December 2024? There was certainly no inkling even this time a year ago that COVID-19 would have become the major issue it has!

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4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

So there we have it, Brexit is over but most Remainers aka Rejoiners can only talk about brickbats and butt hurt instead of pondering why Johnson's political future may be open to question. On the other side of the tent, we have the No-dealers who somehow feel more betrayed and aggrieved than the other lot. Meanwhile, the vast majority of sane and moderate Leavers are probably still celebrating (while remaining within the safe social distancing rules).

 

"There's nowt queerer than fowk" as granny would say.

OK, so you do didn’t read the OP.

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7 hours ago, rooster59 said:

UK PM Johnson could lose his seat and majority at next election - poll

And so he should.  He was widely described as a buffoon before he was elected and he has proved to be just that.  the man is a proven liar, has gone back on several election promises and 'railroaded' his policies through.

 

On several occasions he shown that he doesn't know what's going on, got his facts wrong and had to u-turn on many items - not the qualities required of a Prime Minister.  His cabinet consists of people given their positions because they supported him on Brexit, not because of their ability to do the job. Watch them on TV - bunch of dithering idiots!

 

I am ashamed to say that I voted for him but I did so because at the time, the alternative was to put Labour in power and endure many more years of arguing about Brexit.

 

I just hope that at the next election we have some credible alternatives.

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5 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Like, the UK can pass anti covid vaccinations using our own standards, we dont need to wait for the E.Us approval

You mean: an emergency procedure, and simply skip all scrutiny by UK health officials

Bye-the-way: as every EU member state was and is allowed to do.

Big chance however, these vaccins are o.K. 

 

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4 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   I do recall that "people on the forum" had the opinion that they would prefer to have no deal, rather than a bad deal that favoured the E.U .

   Rather than straight forward not wanting a deal 

A number of Brexiteers on this forum categorically stated they wanted no deal.

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2 hours ago, Sujo said:

so you dont like democracy as well. That figures.

I don't think we've found a better system yet but democracy has its flaws.  Perhaps the biggest of which is that governments make decisions based on their effect on future votes - rather than whether they will be good for the country or not.  Sometimes democratic governments need to introduce policies that are likely to be very unpopular - they rarely do though. Johnson proposes policies then retracts them if people start shouting.

 

On the face of it communism should provide Utopia but it fails because of greed and/or laziness. Socialism is much the same.

 

But are any of these systems actually what they claim to be?  For example, does Thailand have true democracy? Is everyone in North Korea equal?

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5 hours ago, luckyluke said:

 

The Daily Telegraph is a conservative centre-right ( for some, right wing ) newspaper.

 

Many believe it write biased stories, read by right wingers who want to read stories that match their beliefs.

 

However both newspapers contain very interesting articles,  to fully appreciate them, one has to read them without a prejudiced approach.

Trouble is the Telegraph is behind a paywall,so you need to pay to read the "interesting articles" . There's no way I am paying them.I will stick with my Guardian and Independent subscriptions.

Did the guardian conduct the poll in question or just report it? A mate wants to know.

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7 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Plenty said that, me included. At some points it looked like there would only be a bad deal for the UK, in which case No Deal was infinitely better. Remember the slogan: No Deal is better than a bad deal. It was all true.

 

In the end, the deal is acceptable in many areas on which the UK will now thrive and prosper. 

What was the bad deal and how has the EU given in that you now all of a sudden think its a good deal ?

 

I mean you did not get your fishing rights as you wanted and you still have to follow EU standards for access to the market. Those where things you seemed to dislike a lot. But the EU did not really give in on the fair playing field principle. The fishing was a compromise on both sides.


What made you change your mind from no deal to this is a good deal ?

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7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   Yes, the "Heavy mob"

Quite beneficial and important to have them in the background, when negotiating with the E.U

Why then did you before pretend that you did not know them ? Ask me to name them.

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33 minutes ago, OJAS said:

 

Agreed - who can possibly foretell with any accuracy at this stage the issues which will be at the forefront of voters' minds as they troop to their polling stations in December 2024? There was certainly no inkling even this time a year ago that COVID-19 would have become the major issue it has!

Anniversaries of deaths of family members,The pressure that's been put upon health care workers.The stress about mums and dads and grandparents in care homes.The disaster that's been education.Not forgetting any problems that may arise now that the UK is actually out.The upcoming row about the Billions the government have given to their mates,may focus minds come the next election.Feel free to add to the list. 

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4 hours ago, andyg75 said:

Why do they read about British things,if I saw. a thread about Holland or France I wouldn’t bother reading it.British things to them is like some sort of magnet,

First of all: Holland is the strip in the west of the nation called since 1815: Netherlands.

2) The well-being of our trade/neighbours DOES interest me, as it influences my own life. Especially the nation on the other side of the herring & mackerel pool.

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Just now, puipuitom said:

First of all: Holland is the strip in the west of the nation called since 1815: Netherlands.

2) The well-being of our trade/neighbours DOES interest me, as it influences my own life. Especially the nation on the other side of the herring & mackerel pool.

I think you can see a noticeable difference just in one present discussion, and previous ones on this subject between how a European thinks/attitude vs an Englishman. 

 

Maybe only a snapshot on here but in my experience pretty typical. 

 

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4 hours ago, luckyluke said:

 

This is impressive.

I counted 50+.

As these papers exist, they must have readers.

Which mean there are a lot of "left" sympathizers in the U.K..

Look at the titles though. These aren't on new stands all over the country.Most of them are either subscription or  bundled with a Union membership. Hardly the stuff to taint the minds of the young and the restless. More like weekend couch reading for the old and and bitter.

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1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

Far too early to be holding polls. It will be more interesting to do so in 3 years or so. Boris has won an 80 seat majority in parliament having survived a near death illness, and more recently a 300 plus majority in parliament for the Brexit deal. He still appears to be popular, and I doubt he'll be ousted any time soon.

It was a survey of more than 22,000 people, conducted by the research data company Focaldata,using the multilevel regression and post-stratification (MRP) method.I copied that from the independent.It was first published in the Sunday times and then the Guardian and others.

Tories 284 seats, Labour 282 the SP winning 57 of the 59 Scottish seats.The LibDems down to 2 seats.Light at the end of the tunnel maybe.

Who is going to be first to put up a 10k wager on the result ?come on MGDN. 

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