How security failures enabled Trump mob to storm U.S. Capitol

[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, Backslider said:

 

this whole debacle occured because of a lack of basic security preparedness, if someone had had the forethought to prepare for what was always likely to be a potentially disruptive protest the outcome would have been much reduced.

That is a big scandal and heads have already rolled. But stay tuned. There is a lot behind the story as to how and why it took so long to get in relief forces.

 

But I would agree that anyone with a pulse knew this mob of pro Mr. trump extremists would try this. They were broadcasting it for months!

 

Who knows, maybe the result of this will be statehood for Washington, D.C.

Edited January 8, 2021 by Jingthing

[from the home of CC]

On 1/7/2021 at 6:38 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Catastrophic failure to prepare? Or deliberate shirking of duty on the part of federal authorities who ultimately work for Trump?

 

I certainly hope a serious investigation results and gets to the bottom of this "catastrophic failure."

 

 

Let's hope the reasons get made clear...and public!

 

And then the concluding OP comment:
 

 

Trump presidentially incited terrorism, that is.

 

a purge in many police departments across the whole US is needed though with the strength of their unions I don't believe it will be accomplished, and I'm not just referring to the offences of aiding and abetting Trump..

[unblocktheplanet]

That Donald sure knows how to throw a going-away party!

[HaleySabai]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Coherent. You mean about his "sacred landslide". I watched some of the speech. It was no more coherent than any other. A coherent speech would have made assertions followed by evidence. You want to see something coherent? Just follow this link:

Fact-Checking the Congressional Debate on Ratifying the Election Results - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

Assertions were made. But really, expecting "evidence" to be presented during a Presidential speech in front of 250,000 people is..well, moronic at best.

Let us not forget Ol'Joe, where he was kept awake for 7.5 mins to deliver a very inspiring and coherent address to the nation that received praise from all of the media...according to the media.

 

"Fact-Checkers"...yes, thank you for protecting us from free-speech, diversified perspectives and our own thinking.

Never making a single mistake in knowing what the "facts" are.

Also, a 100% accuracy rate in pointing out other peoples mistakes.

That literally makes you perfect, and if we didn't know any better we'd think that is too good to be true.

Therefore,those who are trying to control the narrative, control the fact-checkers who are helping to control the narrative. But because this isn't public knowledge, Joe- public doesn't have knowledge of it...because he's too stupid.

.....Nearly all MSM have been waging a 'war of narrative' over the last 4yrs that have over turned a once trusted news source into a grotesquery of journalism.

I don't have time, AT ALL for publications such as NY Times or the Wa-PO. The political-bias they portend to conceal is clear as dog balls.

[HaleySabai]

4 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Come on.  He's been firing them up for this for weeks.  Stolen election.  Stop the steal.  Come to DC in force and be ready.  To say nothing about what Don jr. and Rudy have been spewing. 

 

Sedition.  Plain and simple.

By definition that still is not "sedition".

[Scott]

Trolling meme and reply reported and removed. 

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55 minutes ago, HaleySabai said:

Assertions were made. But really, expecting "evidence" to be presented during a Presidential speech in front of 250,000 people is..well, moronic at best.

Let us not forget Ol'Joe, where he was kept awake for 7.5 mins to deliver a very inspiring and coherent address to the nation that received praise from all of the media...according to the media.

 

"Fact-Checkers"...yes, thank you for protecting us from free-speech, diversified perspectives and our own thinking.

Never making a single mistake in knowing what the "facts" are.

Also, a 100% accuracy rate in pointing out other peoples mistakes.

That literally makes you perfect, and if we didn't know any better we'd think that is too good to be true.

Therefore,those who are trying to control the narrative, control the fact-checkers who are helping to control the narrative. But because this isn't public knowledge, Joe- public doesn't have knowledge of it...because he's too stupid.

.....Nearly all MSM have been waging a 'war of narrative' over the last 4yrs that have over turned a once trusted news source into a grotesquery of journalism.

I don't have time, AT ALL for publications such as NY Times or the Wa-PO. The political-bias they portend to conceal is clear as dog balls.

Well, I guess now that some evidence has been removed from the thread, I'll have to skewer your rant. And already nonsense appears in the 2nd sentence. Trump claimed a crowd of 250,000 and you believed it? Doesn't Trump's history of ridiculous claims about crowd size mean anything to you? Or do you actually believe that his inauguration drew a bigger crowd than Obama's?

 

And of course the senility slams against Biden continue despite what the experts say:

Trump, Biden Are Potential ‘Super Agers’ Whose Age Is ‘Not Relevant’ To Election, Study Finds

Donald Trump and Joe Biden are likely to stay in good health for the duration of the next presidential term and may be “super agers” who will significantly outlive other men their age, a new study projects, undercutting criticisms about the septuagenarians’ age and mental fitness that have plagued both candidates on the campaign trail.

Trump, Biden Are Potential ‘Super Agers’ Whose Age Is ‘Not Relevant’ To Election, Study Finds (forbes.com)

So it was the alleged size of the crowd that absolves Trump of providing any support for his wild and repeatedly disproved assertions? What's the maximum size a crowd can be before reason is dispensed with? If the alleged size was only "249,000 would evidence be pertinent? "Moronic" might best be an adjective applied closer to home.

As far as I can tell the rest of what you wrote is just pure unhinged rant almost worthy of Trump himself. I guess the gist of it is, "To hell with evidence-based thinking."

 

 

 

[Pique Dard]

looking at those incredible images, i was wondering if i should be surprised or not? i'm serious

[mlmcleod]

On 1/7/2021 at 5:58 PM, snoop1130 said:

He blamed Trump for inciting the riot: “This is no longer just a protest. They crossed the line. This is terrorism.”

Not so fast!  Faux(Fox) News has reported that the entire insurrection was by BLM and antifa acting under a false flag as neo-Nazis and Proud Boys!  Considering the source the news must be given careful consideration perhaps with a Republican Senate Committee to white wash Trump's attempt to seize control of Congress.  Anyone who still supports Trump in any way is a traitor to the United States.

[pegman]

Nov/2020 USA trade imbalance the highest in 14 years. Hell of a job your boy did.

[Scott]

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[scammed]

8 hours ago, placeholder said:

Well, I guess now that some evidence has been removed from the thread, I'll have to skewer your rant. And already nonsense appears in the 2nd sentence. Trump claimed a crowd of 250,000 and you believed it? Doesn't Trump's history of ridiculous claims about crowd size mean anything to you? Or do you actually believe that his inauguration drew a bigger crowd than Obama's?

 

And of course the senility slams against Biden continue despite what the experts say:

Trump, Biden Are Potential ‘Super Agers’ Whose Age Is ‘Not Relevant’ To Election, Study Finds

Donald Trump and Joe Biden are likely to stay in good health for the duration of the next presidential term and may be “super agers” who will significantly outlive other men their age, a new study projects, undercutting criticisms about the septuagenarians’ age and mental fitness that have plagued both candidates on the campaign trail.

Trump, Biden Are Potential ‘Super Agers’ Whose Age Is ‘Not Relevant’ To Election, Study Finds (forbes.com)

So it was the alleged size of the crowd that absolves Trump of providing any support for his wild and repeatedly disproved assertions? What's the maximum size a crowd can be before reason is dispensed with? If the alleged size was only "249,000 would evidence be pertinent? "Moronic" might best be an adjective applied closer to home.

As far as I can tell the rest of what you wrote is just pure unhinged rant almost worthy of Trump himself. I guess the gist of it is, "To hell with evidence-based thinking."

 

 

 

 

A certain amount of physical wasting or atrophy—also medically termed “regional deterioration of brain structure”—occurs in the brain naturally with age.1 The impact of these structural alterations is vastly underestimated by both physicians and patients alike. This process usually commences around age 30, with marked acceleration observed at 50.

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2011/10/combating-age-related-brain-deterioration

[scammed]

7 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

looking at those incredible images, i was wondering if i should be surprised or not? i'm serious

if you google 'mostly peaceful protests images' you will find

that riot is the new normal, only how it is viewed changes,

some say these activists inspire and want to make the vision reality

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50 minutes ago, scammed said:

 

A certain amount of physical wasting or atrophy—also medically termed “regional deterioration of brain structure”—occurs in the brain naturally with age.1 The impact of these structural alterations is vastly underestimated by both physicians and patients alike. This process usually commences around age 30, with marked acceleration observed at 50.

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2011/10/combating-age-related-brain-deterioration

Thanks for the generalization.  Maybe you should share this article with the gerontologists who wrote the research paper I cited. The point of which was that Trump and Biden were judged to be super agers. That is to say, exceptions to the usual course of brain related aging.

[Jeffr2]

10 hours ago, HaleySabai said:

By definition that still is not "sedition".

Yes it is.  Read this:

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2021/01/08/a-civilian-s-guide-to-insurrection-legalese

[Jeffr2]

54 minutes ago, scammed said:

if you google 'mostly peaceful protests images' you will find

that riot is the new normal, only how it is viewed changes,

some say these activists inspire and want to make the vision reality

And they're making money off it by live streaming the event.  Terrible!!!

 

https://cointelegraph.com/news/tron-s-dlive-platform-under-fire-for-live-streaming-us-capitol-extremists

[scammed]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

And they're making money off it by live streaming the event.  Terrible!!!

 

https://cointelegraph.com/news/tron-s-dlive-platform-under-fire-for-live-streaming-us-capitol-extremists

well looting is so common in riots so the terms are interchangeable

[Jeffr2]

10 minutes ago, scammed said:

well looting is so common in riots so the terms are interchangeable

Yeah, these nuts stole lots of stuff.  Luckily, many are now already in jail, with more to come.  Terrorists, one and all.

[scammed]

37 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Yeah, these nuts stole lots of stuff.  Luckily, many are now already in jail, with more to come.  Terrorists, one and all.

and what about black lives matter, are they nuts and terrorists and should be in jail,

or do they stand above the law ?

[mikebike]

13 minutes ago, scammed said:

and what about black lives matter, are they nuts and terrorists and should be in jail,

or do they stand above the law ?

Do try to understand. I'll give you a hint: CONTEXT.

[Jeffr2]

27 minutes ago, scammed said:

and what about black lives matter, are they nuts and terrorists and should be in jail,

or do they stand above the law ?

Come on.  Stop trolling BLM.  Jeez...

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, scammed said:

and what about black lives matter, are they nuts and terrorists and should be in jail,

or do they stand above the law ?

Anyone who misuses legitimate protest as an opportunity to commit illegal acts should be in jail.  Happy?

[pegman]

17 hours ago, scammed said:

and what about black lives matter, are they nuts and terrorists and should be in jail,

or do they stand above the law ?

One is a crazed personality cult with nonsense beefs, ie: stolen election, while the other has legitimate complaints like racist cops.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, pegman said:

One is a crazed personality cult with nonsense beefs, ie: stolen election, while the other has legitimate complaints like racist cops.

Yes exactly and also in the case of the Mr. trump incited domestic terrorists, they were involved in insurrection at the U.S. national capitol which gets into extremely serious federal crimes. Nobody with any credibility excuses "regular" rioting but what happened recently at the capitol was historic. The U.S. capitol hadn't been attacked like that since the British did in 1814. They were foreign enemies at the time. These terrorists that bizarrely consider themselves patriots were enemies within. 

Edited January 9, 2021 by Jingthing

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23 hours ago, scammed said:

and what about black lives matter, are they nuts and terrorists and should be in jail,

or do they stand above the law ?

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds

The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) analyzed more than 7,750 Black Lives Matter demonstrations in all 50 states and Washington D.C. that took place in the wake of George Floyd’s death between May 26 and August 22...

In cities where protests did turn violent—these demonstrations are “largely confined to specific blocks,” the report says.

https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/

And some of those incidents the violence involved consistited of toppling statues and such.