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On 1/9/2021 at 5:58 AM, transam said:

(I do these jobs for fun, something to do, no charge)

If that was an explanation for not working, it was very bad. It does not matter if you do it for free, it´s still work, and at the top you are stealing potential work from a Thai.

Othervise, just carry on soldier. 😉

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On 1/9/2021 at 11:58 AM, transam said:

I checked it out, it had a 3 pin plug pushed into a 2 pin adaptor because there were no 3 pin sockets, no earth.

The norm in the majority of older houses up here.

We have a mix of 2 pin and real earth on the outside shack (a washing machine plus water pump plus deep well pump).

All added with RCBO for the shack and wet rooms.

 

Welcome to the real Thailand. Just look at all the extensions with 2 pin plug and 3 "hole" sockets. Protective is either empty or unconnected contacts (for mechanical reason).

These sold are sold everywhere!

 

Got a huge new fridge/freezer. Expected it to have a 3 pin plug. Nope!

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2 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

The norm in the majority of older houses up here.

We have a mix of 2 pin and real earth on the outside shack (a washing machine plus water pump plus deep well pump).

All added with RCBO for the shack and wet rooms.

 

Welcome to the real Thailand. Just look at all the extensions with 2 pin plug and 3 "hole" sockets. Protective is either empty or unconnected contacts (for mechanical reason).

These sold are sold everywhere!

 

Got a huge new fridge/freezer. Expected it to have a 3 pin plug. Nope!

The house in question was built by the bloke, his design, so I was "shocked" that a guy older than me would not have installed earthed stuff, after all, back home 3 pin sockets were around a zillion years back, even the old round pin plugs had earth..

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5 minutes ago, transam said:

The house in question was built by the bloke, his design, so I was "shocked" that a guy older than me would not have installed earthed stuff, after all, back home 3 pin sockets were around a zillion years back, even the old round pin plugs had earth..

I see. Of course if I at the time had interest in the house that we live in now, I would have interfered :smile: (now not having funds and spirit to build a new one).

And even our (now defunct) shop-house built about 2005 or so has 3 pin (earth rod).

As far as I know its now absolutely the norm even for private houses to have proper earth.

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55 minutes ago, transam said:

Indeed I will, after about 3 electric shocks at my place build, via a LOS electrician, I try to take care of me and my friends....😉

Was just joking with you. I help people when I can too. I actually do not call it work. I call it therapeutic adjustment after seing too many Thais doing the work. 😆

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24 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

As far as I know its now absolutely the norm even for private houses to have proper earth.

 

It's certainly supposed to be.

But even now I've been in new builds that have only 2-pin outlets and no RCD/RCBO.

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3 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

It's certainly supposed to be.

But even now I've been in new builds that have only 2-pin outlets and no RCD/RCBO.

 

 

Am I correct that if you install a RCD/RCBO, you don't necessarily need earthed electrics to be protected?

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5 hours ago, Crossy said:

 

It's certainly supposed to be.

But even now I've been in new builds that have only 2-pin outlets and no RCD/RCBO.

 

My recently purchased house has grounding but it only appears to be connected to the two shower heaters which each have RCD/RCBO. (15mA).

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5 hours ago, Susco said:

 

 

Am I correct that if you install a RCD/RCBO, you don't necessarily need earthed electrics to be protected?

Not really, in a way it’s a little like crumple zones, ABS, seat belts, airbags, and auto obstruction stop systems in a car. They all work for reducing deaths and injuries, the more you have and the more carefully you drive the safer you are. 
 

An RCBO/RDC will prevent some accidental electrical shocks but not all, and as @Crossy has mentioned there’s a tinge that for most is just that but it could cause an accident that might be rather more serious for some, even if the tingle itself isn’t bad the shock certainly could cause a fall.
 

That is just one example, getting even a 30 millisecond mains jolt could be rather more interesting specially if you are up a ladder for instance.

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