Trump may turn to Giuliani again to defend against impeachment

[dunroaming 8,655]

I think that Trump my be given a way out to not face charges.  Go quietly and go now and all the crimes and misdemeanors will be swept under the carpet.  It may sound far fetched but I am sure the power in America just wants to draw a line under all this.   What has happened with Trump is staggeringly embarrassing for the USA on the world stage.  To go through months of court cases which will be followed with relish by the world's media would just prolong the agony of whole Trump fiasco.

 

Personally I think he should be shamed and blamed to the the full extent of the law but unfortunately I think that is unlikely to happen.

[ChouDoufu 4,890]

13 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

 

Understatement if ever there was one .. what about that Sydney Powell , couldn't she summon up some sort of

" aliens made him do it " defence .. 

 

nancy will be introducing articles of impeachment possibly as early as this afternoon.

 

time is short!  powell better get kraken!

[Susco 5,483]

47 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

I think that Trump my be given a way out to not face charges.  Go quietly and go now and all the crimes and misdemeanors will be swept under the carpet.  It may sound far fetched but I am sure the power in America just wants to draw a line under all this.   What has happened with Trump is staggeringly embarrassing for the USA on the world stage.  To go through months of court cases which will be followed with relish by the world's media would just prolong the agony of whole Trump fiasco.

 

Personally I think he should be shamed and blamed to the the full extent of the law but unfortunately I think that is unlikely to happen.

 

I think that before we are 6 month further from today, Trump will regret he ever ran for POTUS.

[NanLaew 22,630]

2 hours ago, dunroaming said:

I think that Trump my be given a way out to not face charges.  Go quietly and go now and all the crimes and misdemeanors will be swept under the carpet.  It may sound far fetched but I am sure the power in America just wants to draw a line under all this.   What has happened with Trump is staggeringly embarrassing for the USA on the world stage.  To go through months of court cases which will be followed with relish by the world's media would just prolong the agony of whole Trump fiasco.

 

Personally I think he should be shamed and blamed to the the full extent of the law but unfortunately I think that is unlikely to happen.

 

I held that opinion after the first impeachment died a predictable death. I saw the US quietly sidelining him like the incontinent, senile old grandpa who's kept out of sight at the wedding party. However, that failure only emboldened him into more radical acts and policy decisions that were driven by his ignorance, avarice and narcissism. His increasingly divisive comments were allowed by a bending or blurring of free speech lines since he's still the POTUS after all. A lot of people voted for him and those people are Americans so couldn't possibly have been so wrong. When the pre-election polls saw him slipping behind Biden, over the corresponding 6 to 8 months, he simply "went postal" and Pompeo, Barr, Grassley, McConnell, Graham et al just kept marching along like bobble heads on the bloody dashboard.

 

At least Nixon had the sense to see the writing on the wall and avoided impeachment but surrounded as he is by a dwindling bunch of sycophants, Trump cannot begin to appreciate how he's royally messing things up. When the VP has to call out the National Guard because the President was not of a mind to defend the sacking of the Capitol, there's not much left that can be excused here or simply put down to good people being infiltrated by a handful of antifa, BLM or just plain old lefties.

 

Social media companies that have been blamed for providing the bandwidth for Trump and the menagerie of misguided conspiracy theorists, white supremacists and other lost souls that ride on his coattails. They have acted decisively by cutting off his microphone so now we hear the air-raid siren of the free speech zealots getting all wound up again. If I was a Zuckerberg or a Dorsey and the VP or the House doesn't man-up to LEGALLY snuff out this one-man aberration of the US political system, this ugly blot on America's storied history, then I would say to hell with the lot of you and go ahead and let all the rest of the lunatics out of the asylum.

 

To paraphrase Dean Vernon Wormer in National Lampoon's Animal House, "It's time to put the foot down and that foot is me!"

[Peterw42 13,489]

Unleash the Kraken, I would pay to watch it. 

[heybruce 18,687]

9 hours ago, dunroaming said:

I think that Trump my be given a way out to not face charges.  Go quietly and go now and all the crimes and misdemeanors will be swept under the carpet.  It may sound far fetched but I am sure the power in America just wants to draw a line under all this.   What has happened with Trump is staggeringly embarrassing for the USA on the world stage.  To go through months of court cases which will be followed with relish by the world's media would just prolong the agony of whole Trump fiasco.

 

Personally I think he should be shamed and blamed to the the full extent of the law but unfortunately I think that is unlikely to happen.

It's unrealistic to think Trump would ever do anything quietly. 

[charmonman 1,905]

Funny, all the Trump fans on this forum seem to have gone quiet. I guess even they are finally embarrassed by the clown show now.

[mtls2005 15,573]

21 minutes ago, charmonman said:

Funny, all the Trump fans on this forum seem to have gone quiet. I guess even they are finally embarrassed by the clown show now.

 

Just waiting for talking points from FN, OAN and RT. They'll be back whining about something soon enough.

[Berkshire 16,465]

22 minutes ago, charmonman said:

Funny, all the Trump fans on this forum seem to have gone quiet. I guess even they are finally embarrassed by the clown show now.

I think many are beginning to realize how silly they sound defending Trump, if not downright stupid.  But some are still at it.  

[klauskunkel 20,630]

On 1/11/2021 at 5:59 AM, webfact said:

Trump may turn to Giuliani again to defend against impeachment

Rrrring

DT: Rudy, it's Donald... Come on, pick up... Rudy

 

"Can't come to the phone right now. Please leave your name and message after the beep."

Beeep

[Srikcir 14,634]

DC attorney general is considering riot incitement charges for invasion of the US Capitol against Giuliani, etc.

Senate should require Giuliani to speak under oath during Trump's Senate trial. Democrats should cross examine him as a witness to Trump's appearance at the rally before the invasion.

[Pique Dard 377]

i can't believe this is america , year 2021! what is happening in that country i've admiring so much is simply grostesque!

[NanLaew 22,630]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

1 hour ago, charmonman said:

Funny, all the Trump fans on this forum seem to have gone quiet. I guess even they are finally embarrassed by the clown show now.

 

Just waiting for talking points from FN, OAN and RT. They'll be back whining about something soon enough.

 

Exactly. Just like their dear leader, they haven't given in or given up. They've just dug in deeper and are quietly awaiting reinforcements. They are shameless, unapologetic and still angry.

[cmarshall 2,974]

16 hours ago, dunroaming said:

I think that Trump my be given a way out to not face charges.  Go quietly and go now and all the crimes and misdemeanors will be swept under the carpet.  It may sound far fetched but I am sure the power in America just wants to draw a line under all this.   What has happened with Trump is staggeringly embarrassing for the USA on the world stage.  To go through months of court cases which will be followed with relish by the world's media would just prolong the agony of whole Trump fiasco.

 

Trump could resign and maybe get a pardon from Pence, assuming that the VP does not take it personally that Trump just sent a mob to lynch him.  Other than that he has no path to avoid prosecution.  The DoJ is about to be under new and unsympathetic management.  The local prosecutors in New York and Washington have no incentive to negotiate with Trump and could not be held to any agreement in any case.

 

The Republicans want to "move on" and overlook Trump's crimes, but the Democrats who just elected the new president will certainly not stand for it.

[cmarshall 2,974]

I am not sure how Giuliani's eligibility to defend Trump in an impeachment would be affected, but the New York State Bar Association is about to disbar him.