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4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No.

Ignorance of the law is no defense.

Also the crooked police were a small minority. 

A special place in hell for them.

 

So, you'd prosecute someone walking into a public building with a security guy holding the door open and welcoming him?

 

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The Buffalo Horns guy (aka Jacob Chansley, aka Jake Angeli, aka the Odin of A$$holes) is currently in a detention facility after attempting to overthrow the legitimate government of the United States.

He may or may not end up in prison but what we do know is that Mr. trump knows that he will be fighting legal assaults for the rest of his life starting January 20. Clearly the chance that he could go

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Hey look at the bright side donald will have lots of company in prison lol . throw the book at them imo especially the complicit cops they know better

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Didn't look like much of an insurrection to me. No plan, no actual desire to overthrow the government.  Just a bunch of yahoos who got caught up in the idiocy of the moment.  For the ones who actually broke in and damaged/destroyed property, throw the book at them. From the footage I saw, the vast majority were just milling around like a group of tourists. Taking selfies and looking a little shocked that it was so easy to access the Capitol building itself. 

 

Compared to a typical evening in Portland or Seattle, it was positively sedate.

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20 minutes ago, candide said:

And as usual.....

"We didn’t find evidence of that. Instead, we discovered that some online video is getting misinterpreted. Many officers had to abandon their posts and barricades because they were far outnumbered and overwhelmed."

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/07/ask-politifact-did-capitol-police-let-mob-trump-su/

 

Hey, you can believe the analysis.  I believe what I saw on video. 

 

Added to the fact that they are investigating over a dozen capital security officers for their part in the fracas.  They've already suspended 2, and arrested one.  They don't do that to officers abandoning their posts because they're outnumbered.

 

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35 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Didn't look like much of an insurrection to me. No plan, no actual desire to overthrow the government.  Just a bunch of yahoos who got caught up in the idiocy of the moment.  For the ones who actually broke in and damaged/destroyed property, throw the book at them. From the footage I saw, the vast majority were just milling around like a group of tourists. Taking selfies and looking a little shocked that it was so easy to access the Capitol building itself. 

 

Compared to a typical evening in Portland or Seattle, it was positively sedate.

 

Here's how I know it wasn't a genuine coup or attempt at insurrection...  They left their guns behind. 

 

These are the same guys who carried their guns into protests all over the country- wherever it was legal.  DC police reminded everyone before hand that open carry is illegal in the city.  If they were really out for an insurrection, I doubt that firearm laws would have stood in their way.

 

Sure, some of them broke laws and need to be thrown in jail.  Then the authorities need to look at who made it so easy for them, and why...

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, candide said:

Some of them may well be complicit (it's strange that the protesters could easily find the targeted offices). However, it has not been the most frequent behavior. Many have been injured (around 50) and one killed. If you have watched the videos, you surely also watched the ones in which protesters were harassing policemen, pushing barricades, etc.... 

 

Agreed.  A lot of the protestors need to go to jail.  They knew what they did was wrong and did it anyway. 

 

But some of them were invited into a public building by security guards holding the door open for them.  And others walked through open doors where there was no security presence.  I have some sympathy for those.  Idiots, maybe.  But that's not a crime. 

 

The ones that broke windows, stole stuff, and sat at Pelosi's desk...  Throw away the key. 

 

And on an aside, where was the outrage when protestors were burning down entire neighborhoods last summer?  With deaths and injuries and looting and burnt out cop cars and... and...  Do you figure anyone saw that happening and the lesson they took away was that such behavior would be overlooked?

 

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19 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Agreed.  A lot of the protestors need to go to jail.  They knew what they did was wrong and did it anyway. 

 

But some of them were invited into a public building by security guards holding the door open for them.  And others walked through open doors where there was no security presence.  I have some sympathy for those.  Idiots, maybe.  But that's not a crime. 

 

The ones that broke windows, stole stuff, and sat at Pelosi's desk...  Throw away the key. 

 

And on an aside, where was the outrage when protestors were burning down entire neighborhoods last summer?  With deaths and injuries and looting and burnt out cop cars and... and...  Do you figure anyone saw that happening and the lesson they took away was that such behavior would be overlooked?

 

I agree that some of them were stupid people who just went with the flow. I don't think they have been unaware they were doing something illegal, but they may not have grasped the severity of the offense. However, the ones who have been arrested are likely not these guys.

 

As for the BLM protesters, etc.. they have been arrested too (and in larger number).

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12 hours ago, J Town said:

The Buffalo Horns guy (aka Jacob Chansley, aka Jake Angeli, aka the Odin of A$$holes) is currently in a detention facility after attempting to overthrow the legitimate government of the United States. He's refusing to eat because the food served in the hoosegow isn't organic.

 

You just can't make this stuff up!

 

This MAGA insurrectionist is on a hunger strike. You'll never guess why (dailykos.com)

Maybe you can't make this up but he is a Trump supporter

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